Satellite Communicators

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Steelhead
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For the first time in a while I am going solo off the grid for a couple of days and am going to need a satellite communicator to do daily check ins for my wife’s sanity.
It seems like the general consensus points towards a Garmin Mini 2 or Messenger but the “activation fee” on top of the monthly charges just feels like they are gouging you because they can.

Does anyone have any experience with a device they recommend?
I’m also be open to renting a device if you have one that you be without for July 5-15
 
For a loan/rental, might help to mention where you are located or where you could pick up.
 
I’ve replaced my old Delorme Inreach with the Garmin unit…I’m about to give it to my daughter and get a Sat phone with gps…
 
InReach user for the last 13 years here. If I ever replace my first-gen Delorme unit, it will be another (now Garmin) InReach, mostly because of familiarity.

When my wife researched satellite communicators prior to purchasing one for several remote hunting trips, she ended up going with Zoleo.
 
Do you need a new phone?

With new cell phones offering satellite connectivity, I'm wondering how long stand alone satellite communicators will be around? Were not there yet but I can see a drop off in units sold coming in the near future.

It's like stand alone GPS units. Who has bought one since they became standard on phones?
 
This really begs the question; how long do our phones last before needing recharged? 1-2 days?

How long will we be "off grid"? More than 2 days?

What kind of recharging method will we use in the field? How heavy is it?

This kind of stuff interest me,... I used to shy away from rechargeable devices in the field, but, with newer technology, I have to rethink that.
 
This really begs the question; how long do our phones last before needing recharged? 1-2 days?

How long will we be "off grid"? More than 2 days?

What kind of recharging method will we use in the field? How heavy is it?

This kind of stuff interest me,... I used to shy away from rechargeable devices in the field, but, with newer technology, I have to rethink that.
I have a USB charger plugin on both boats, only really one of which I foresee this being an issue with as it goes off shore. I also almost always have my battery/jumper box with me which has a few phone charges in it. So in my case, I should be good. Someone off grid in the woods, though, would definitely have to worry about that. I think a battery charging bank would be wise to have.
 
I have a USB charger plugin on both boats, only really one of which I foresee this being an issue with as it goes off shore. I also almost always have my battery/jumper box with me which has a few phone charges in it. So in my case, I should be good. Someone off grid in the woods, though, would definitely have to worry about that. I think a battery charging bank would be wise to have.
Being close to a vehicle (car, truck, boat, etc) is an almost no brainer for me. I was thinking out in the field in the woods or something like that.

I have a battery bank, but, it adds extra weight. My small one just got recalled, it wouldn't charge my phone completely, and my older one is a brick. I think when you're in the middle of no where alaska, one would probably consider a portable solar panel too.
 
I have InReach Messenger and find it works well. Battery life up to 30 days, and you can even charge your phone form the device enough to send a message. In addition to the activation fee, there's an annual program fee with their basic plan, but you can start/stop the service anytime, so if you only need it a few times a year you just suspend service until needed.
 
I have been using a Zoleo for the past several years, and it works for me.

Second the Zoleo. Used mine on a six day, 160 mile backpacking trip and it worked flawlessly for soothing a nervous wife. Also great to have anytime you know you're going to be out of cell phone range with the potential for needing help if worse comes to worse.
 
I've done a couple solo off-grid floats and just rented a sat phone. These guys were real easy to work with-
https://www.bluecosmo.com/iridium-satellite-phone-daily-rentals.html

$10 per day isn't much if something goes wrong. It allowed me to send a text to my wife every night and morning. I called once or twice as well.

I always carry a USB battery pack (Trond 12500mAh/46.3Wh) with me. Fully charged, it can charge my regular cell phone and the sat phone for 4 days and still have some juice left. You can get 40000mAh ones now for $30 that could charge your phones for a week. Maybe 2 of those?

Btw, if your regular cell phone is fairly new, it will essentially put itself into airplane type mode if it can't find signal for a while. It does this to conserve battery. The older phones would just keep scanning and scanning, burning through the battery in just a few hours. If you're not sure, but know you don't have coverage it's best to just set it to airplane mode. They last a long time on airplane mode. So you can still use your camera and any notes you have.
And any apps that work offline. Also, turn the brightness down at night. The screen is the main consumer of power.

Another cool thing is if you start Google maps (and have it set to satellite image) while you still have coverage and then go into no coverage, some of the features won't work, but it will at least update your location with GPS. As long as you have clear path to satellites...usually to the south.

And if you zoom in/out to the main area before you leave coverage you'll be able to take advantage of the cache function within Google maps app to still be able to use the satellite image map. This can be very helpful when trying to figure out where you are.

Good luck and have fun!
 
You hiked 27 miles a day?
Averaged out, yes. Longest day was 33.45 and the shortest was 21.75. Hiked a loop in the Smokies consisting of the AT and Benton MacKaye trail in the National Park. Been digging spending long days in the green tunnel out East. Heading down to GA next week for another 165 mile hike.
 

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In the next few years our mobile phones will be connecting with satellites for cellular connectivity. Similar to StarLink for internet access, these companies will be deploying numerous satellites for cell service. One such company is AST SpaceMobile:


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