SA Magnitude Clear Float fly lines

DimeBrite

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Scientific Anglers recently released a new series of clear floating and intermediate tropical fly lines: "Magnitude". An earlier thread discussed the high cost of these lines ~$180 each. I recently purchased two of these lines and fished with the "SA Magnitude Bonefish Plus Clear 10 foot Float WF9F" for a week on the flats. Some thoughts are summarized below for those who are curious about these new clear fly lines:

1) It cast nicely in close and at distance
2) It handled a breeze easily
3) The 10 foot clear head did not yellow or fog, despite being pulled through coral heads by dozens of bonefish, trevally, emperors, and a Indo-Pacific permit.
4) The clear head did not coil, nor did the running line.
5) After a week, the running line did tangle at times from twisting behind me in current as I walked the flats. Cleaning the line and carrying the line in coils helped.
6) It is a very good bonefish fly line, 50 foot taper. However, it does land a bit heavy if you don't allow the loop to unfold above the target zone.
7) A 12 to 13 foot leader is still required to target spooky bonefish and permit, despite the 10' clear head.
8) The 10' clear head made landing the fly close to a permit more challenging. It was harder to watch the loop unfold and spot the fly landing (especially with a long permit leader).
9) The 10' clear head was not a critical advantage to catch bonefish, and may have been a disadvantage to presenting a fly close into spooky permit. This was all wade fishing, not from a boat.
10) I fished just as well, if not better, when I switched over to my "Cortland Bonefish Tropical Plus Series WF9F" fly line. This nonclear bonefish line landed a bit softer and it was easy for me to watch my loop unfold for more accurate casts close into spooky bonefish and permit.

Overall, I like the new Magnitude fly line series. The clear tips are better than prior attempts. There are times when a clear tip is helpful to fool spooky flats fish (less line shadow), but the angler must be very good at seeing the loop and fly during the cast. I'm looking forward to using the "Magnitude Grand Slam 1O' Clear Float WF9F" fly line for juvenile tarpon and Atlantic permit (fishing from a boat) sometime in the future.
 
I wonder if the clear line will help when targeting the extra spooky Kiritimati triggers...
I think these lines would work very well for them. Tailing triggers are a more stationary target than erratic permit. You can put a cast upcurrent of a trigger and strip the fly into position fairly easily. I would still use a 12-13 foot, 20 lb leader for them.
 
How were they casting into the wind ?
The place we go to on vacation always, always has wind . But it’s the waves that bother me most . I rate fly lines for wind . If they won’t power through the wind then I don’t buy em.
 
How were they casting into the wind ?
The place we go to on vacation always, always has wind . But it’s the waves that bother me most . I rate fly lines for wind . If they won’t power through the wind then I don’t buy em.

The Magnitude line I used was very good at casting into the wind. Of course a crisp double haul cast and tight loops are necessary for good results.
 
I am curious in your opinion do you think the clear tip is really any help with casting and line management over a fully clear line? I am going to try one or the other for a permit trip to Mexico, some boat and some wading, and was thinking the shorter clear tip would help but based on your above thoughts "The 10' clear head made landing the fly close to a permit more challenging. It was harder to watch the loop unfold and spot the fly landing (especially with a long permit leader)." Makes me think I should just go all clear since it will be more of a challenge anyway might as well get the full clear advantage. Would love yo hear your thoughts?
 
I am curious in your opinion do you think the clear tip is really any help with casting and line management over a fully clear line? I am going to try one or the other for a permit trip to Mexico, some boat and some wading, and was thinking the shorter clear tip would help but based on your above thoughts "The 10' clear head made landing the fly close to a permit more challenging. It was harder to watch the loop unfold and spot the fly landing (especially with a long permit leader)." Makes me think I should just go all clear since it will be more of a challenge anyway might as well get the full clear advantage. Would love yo hear your thoughts?

Listening to podcasts from very experienced permit guides, their ideal fly line would have a 3-4 foot clear tip and a ~9 foot furled or tapered leader. This would be stealthy and very castable. Also, the shorter clear tip would make it easier for the client angler to keep track of their loop for more accurate casting into the permit's cone of vision.

So... I would say using the SA or RIO clear tip floating or intermediate fly lines with a standard colored floating running line is a good choice. RIO Elite Flats Pro clear tip lines have a 6 foot clear tip versus the SA 10 foot. I just used RIO's intermediate clear tip lines (9, 10 wt) for permit, etc in Australia and they worked well. I personally don't like the tacky texture of the coating on the floating running line portion of these RIO lines in hot weather, but that is just my opinion (the clear tip is great).

If you are a really experienced permit angler with sharp eyes for landing flies accurately, the full clear fly lines could be ideal in areas with pressured and ultra spooky permit.

If you are less experienced and don't like the idea of casting very long leaders and a heavy crab into steady wind, then a clear floating or intermediate tip line might be best for you.

Finally, a non-clear fly line with a taper you love for accurate and gentle presentation might still be the best tool. Especially if you are casting a well-constructed furled leader that helps turn over a heavy crab in wind despite longer length.
 
Dimebright, are you making your own furled leaders? Do you use them in the sound?

I don't use furled leaders for Puget Sound since we are blind casting and leader length is short.

By furled, I mean a doubled bimini loop at the top section for good turn-over and extra flex fighting strong saltwater fish.
 
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