Pretty fly for a white......fish.

found some players...both this type of salmonid and another type of native salmonid...
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rescued this little fella from certain death on the road.
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Nothing wrong with a whitey day.
totally agree...I only got a several of them to go with a bunch of redsides but I had to resort to basically fishing a double egg to get them. They fought harder than most of the redsides.

as a side-note, it was my first wet wading day of the year out there and I'm sure glad I did. ~72 for a high, water temp was a very manageable 48-50.

Now, if my tiger musky waters would just warm up a little bit...probably do a recon trip next weekend.
 
Aka Bull snake. Glad rattlers aren't as aggressive as these guys. I've had 2 big ones basically tell me "Go around!" I went around. (y)
I'm not sure why the common names across the country differ, but it's basically all species and subspecies out west are called gopher snakes, central are bull snakes, east are pine snakes all within the genus Pituophis. Here's where it gets fun, Pine snakes fall within (P. melanoleucus, P. deppei, P. ruthveni), gopher snakes fall within (P. catenifer, P. lineaticollis, P. vertebralis) & Bullsnakes are solely P. catenifer with common names depending on locale. Point being, most herp folks don't care for them being lumped together. To make things even more convoluted, Bullsnakes (regardless of locale) are all P. c. sayi (whereas gopher snakes' subspecies are different based on locale--e.g. pacific gopher, great basin gopher, sonoran gopher, etc...) , so just a subspecies although that's a relatively new change, they used to have full species status (P. sayi).

It would be like saying a coastal cutthroat is the same as a Lahontan (if just going by the bullsnake vs. great basin gopher snake since they're both P. catenifer but different subspecies). If you're saying that a bullsnake is the same as a pinesnake, that would be more akin to saying that a brook trout is the same as a bull trout as they are considered two completely different species.

Back to the actual snakes, some are really chill (this one never hissed, but started to do the tail rattle towards the end of our handling session). Just like with rattlesnakes, there's a pretty wide range, but yeah the most aggressive ones are always gopher snakes and the most chill ones are also always gopher snakes. I don't free-handle rattlesnakes ever (always use a tool of some sorts in the rare instances I do handle them), so there may be some inherent bias there.
 
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found some players...both this type of salmonid and another type of native salmonid...
Zh1Izz9.jpg

sFzLkQ3.jpg


rescued this little fella from certain death on the road.
ENlmxez.jpg

Well played on the thread title.

I’m guessing you nymphed up the whiteys (?) - what did you use? I used to believe princes (or purple princes) were the all time whitefish crack cocaine but that is MT. When i was really little my uncles used to task me once a summer or so to catch some for the smoker. That was the kind of chore i could really get behind. Billy Blancos!
 
I could only get the whiteys on egg patterns. But yeah, princes work great for them out here....my eggs work better though, at least through April.

Redbands all came on whatever size 16 nymph I had. Fished a Skwala dry for a while with the dropper as well. I was too lazy to change but my buddy hit a few on the surface during the bwo hatch.
 
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I'm not sure why the common names across the country differ, but it's basically all species and subspecies out west are called gopher snakes, central are bull snakes, east are pine snakes all within the genus Pituophis. Here's where it gets fun, Pine snakes fall within (P. melanoleucus, P. deppei, P. ruthveni), gopher snakes fall within (P. catenifer, P. lineaticollis, P. vertebralis) & Bullsnakes are solely P. catenifer with common names depending on locale. Point being, most herp folks don't care for them being lumped together. To make things even more convoluted, Bullsnakes (regardless of locale) are all P. c. sayi (whereas gopher snakes' subspecies are different based on locale--e.g. pacific gopher, great basin gopher, sonoran gopher, etc...) , so just a subspecies although that's a relatively new change, they used to have full species status (P. sayi).

It would be like saying a coastal cutthroat is the same as a Lahontan (if just going by the bullsnake vs. great basin gopher snake since they're both P. catenifer but different subspecies). If you're saying that a bullsnake is the same as a pinesnake, that would be more akin to saying that a brook trout is the same as a bull trout as they are considered two completely different species.

Back to the actual snakes, some are really chill (this one never hissed, but started to do the tail rattle towards the end of our handling session). Just like with rattlesnakes, there's a pretty wide range, but yeah the most aggressive ones are always gopher snakes and the most chill ones are also always gopher snakes. I don't free-handle rattlesnakes ever (always use a tool of some sorts in the rare instances I do handle them), so there may be some inherent bias there.
Good info.
Well, I grew up in Goldendale WA and have fished the Deschutes regularly since 81 and I've never heard anyone call them a gopher snake. Always been something like "See any snakes?" "Yep, 1 rattler and 3 bull snakes." Hopefully the gopher snake folks out there don't get too bent out of shape. :cool:
 
Hopefully the gopher snake folks out there don't get too bent out of shape. :cool:
Tell you what, I won't call your SRCs Lahontans if you don't call my Gopher snakes Bullsnakes....:LOL:


Great Lakes lake-run rainbows are NOT steelhead....hopefully we can all at least agree on that. :ROFLMAO:
 
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