I was actually trying to make a joke about swinging and kings like the royalty kind they have in the UK. It was funny in my head...Like I said, it was meant in jest.
I'm more bothered by the misused of apostrophes than what people call chinook/kings
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I thought “blueback” was slang for sockeye?Geez.... I had no idea about the great pacific salmon name wars... In these parts we all call the big ol' salmon Chinooks or Kings -- no one seems to get in an uproar about it one way or the other. The smaller, steelhead size, pacific salmon we call silvers or coho and again, no one I've met gets riled up over one name or the other.
However, I do take acceptation to the term "blueback" when referring to sea-run cutthroat trout. In no way do the fish have a blue back .... caught lots of the critters and have never seen one with a blue back yet. I don't know where the term came from but it is wrong
Yes, "blueback" was a term that I found out the Indigenous people call the sockeye. Found that out at Cascade Locks fishing for them alongside the Yakama Tribe. The difference between "Kings" and "Chinook" is the largest salmon from the Columbia River named from the Chinook Tribe that lived just east of Ilwaco, Washington. From a native, not Indigenous, Oregonian that talks to the Tribes, hope this helps. Evan, if you are bothered by the apostrophe placement, do not read Facebook or Next-door. I cringe when I read those sites, makes you wonder about our education system.
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That was Jack "Flyman" Harrell and his son John. Jack, who was my mentor when I showed up in 2006, has aged out of guiding and my understanding is John stays busy as a full time contractor. RRSmith might chime in on this, he bought our house on a nearby lake when we moved, and is in the game.
Nestucca has very limited bank access in tidewater where the nooks' hold until first rains, and it's dominated by the bait and lure crew.
The Wilson has zero access without a boat and is challenging to access with one. And whatever the opposite of friendly anglers is, the Wilson has plenty of them.
I want to say @Millsfly has a Dory he likes to go on annually.
Lots of great suggestions, guess it depends on what your friend wants to do but some good choices presented. I’d suggest the lower Rogue, access from Gold Beach a road follows the river upstream for almost 40 miles, ending just past Agness. There are a couple lodges as well as campgrounds, the latter of which I believe have cabins for rent. Should be prime time for half-pounders and adult summer fish. One can use the ODFW Huntley Park Seine Counts for daily counts from July(?) to end of October, early to mid September should be prime time. Could also get a jet boat ride up into the canyon.
Was thinking the rogue would be a worthy suggestion but I don't know anything about fishing from the upper canyon on down. Sounds pretty intriguing though.
The water in the lower reaches of road access above the canyon have been good to me in my visits.
Gyrfalcon22
Legend
The freshest sea-run coastal cutthroats that inhabit tidewater and just above where I am on coastal WA will have a pretty blue sheen on the scales generally above the lateral line to the top dorsal scales. Can be light dependent. Anyone alive and 50 and above who fished way back when in this area called those Blueback, and the resident small yellow cutthroat were just called Natives.
Salmon were Kings, Silver, Dogs and peewee males- Jacks. If you said Chinook or Coho you were likely looked at sideways for trying to be an educated show-off smartass, and that made you likely suspect....
Salmon were Kings, Silver, Dogs and peewee males- Jacks. If you said Chinook or Coho you were likely looked at sideways for trying to be an educated show-off smartass, and that made you likely suspect....
I'm actually wondering if the naming issue is generational. The more I think about it, the crowds Gen x and younger seem to go with chinook/coho, and I've had several correct me when I said silver/king. Anyone I've seen use the silver/king names were older gens.The freshest sea-run coastal cutthroats that inhabitat tidewater and just above where I am on coastal WA will have a pretty blue sheen on the scales generally above the lateral line to the top dorsal scales. Can be light dependent. Anyone alive and 50 and above who fished way back when in this area called those Blueback, and the resident cutthroat were just called Natives.
Salmon were Kings, Silver, Dogs and peewee males- Jacks. If you said Chinook or Coho you were likely looked at sideways for trying to be an educated show-off smartass, and that made you likely suspect....
Either way, I use em both and sometimes mash up the names together to make everyone hate me equally
I do remember SRC being called bluebacks on the central to northern Oregon Coast streams when I fished them ‘68-‘76.
Gyrfalcon22
Legend
Yes, for sure. I'd agree. Geezer card status for me. If you run into true scientists you've got to break out the Latin to be on par.
JimTravers¤£a!!Travers
Steelhead
Verious ACCESS AREAS are available on the Oregon. Waters scene. I was down there fall 21. Hit various ACCESS POINTS to much avail. Several access areas were presented by the guides.
Getting back to JIm's original ask, your friend can find an abundance of tugs during a trip along the OR coast heading south, just a matter of what and how.
Would suggest he do some research, line up trips/guides/self opportunities, keep updated with the ODFW fishing report, and match them up when the time comes.
Would suggest he do some research, line up trips/guides/self opportunities, keep updated with the ODFW fishing report, and match them up when the time comes.
FinLuver
Native Oregonian…1846
I have noticed in a small blue line I fish regularly, that the rainbows in May will have a blue back…and during September will have a bronze back (comparative size).The freshest sea-run coastal cutthroats that inhabit tidewater and just above where I am on coastal WA will have a pretty blue sheen on the scales generally above the lateral line to the top dorsal scales. Can be light dependent. Anyone alive and 50 and above who fished way back when in this area called those Blueback, and the resident small yellow cutthroat were just called Natives.
Salmon were Kings, Silver, Dogs and peewee males- Jacks. If you said Chinook or Coho you were likely looked at sideways for trying to be an educated show-off smartass, and that made you likely suspect....
