Navigable River Designations in Oregon

There was a time that I was heavily involved in the ongoing battle in regards to public rights for river use. Without going into great detail, it comes down to this: (The 2005 Oregon Attorney General Opinion carries a lot of weight)

Not all waterways have been determined to be Oregon-owned. But the public still has the right to use a waterway that is “navigable-for-public-use,” which means a waterway long, wide, and deep enough for a boat to move through.

The public may:

  • Use these waterways for navigation, commerce, recreation, and fishing.
  • Use the bank of a waterway that is navigable-for-public-use if the use is “necessary” to the lawful use of the waterway. For example, going around an obstruction, retrieving a paddle, or providing first aid.
  • Important note: This information is based on a 2005 Oregon Attorney General Opinion addressing the public's right to use a waterway if Oregon's ownership has not been determined. The Department cannot provide any additional guidance on use of waterways that have not been determined to be Oregon-owned.
 
I don't agree with the author of that piece much, and believe many points are wrong.
Recreation use doesn't mean squat, but if you can float a raft of shingles for commercial use at any point in the year then it's navigable all year (Adirondack Shingle Case). At least that's what I remember from school and exams. Of course every case in non-designated areas is subject to ultimate decision by the court. I'm pretty brave in pushing navigable, but I'm getting enough permission it's becoming irrelevant. I gotta go find that AG opinion, both for law and case laws review..
 
Damn, even the D isn't listed as navigable???
Under the 1853 BLM instructions if it was less than 3 chains (198') it wasn't considered navigable and surveyed with meander lines.
Boy I hope I'm remembering right, trying to keep the brain going in retirement.
 
The Shingle Float test is one used in several states. I think it's at least part of Washington's definition. I don't know if it's in Oregon, though they have a definition too, solidified sometime shortly after statehood and about the same time as a surface water code was adopted. As I remember, Oregon's is two part: Part 1: was it used for navigation for commerce at statehood (1859), and part 2: can a boat make forward progress on the stream. If the boat test is passed, you likely have a public right to float, though you may not be able to access the bed and banks of the stream. If the commerce navigation is passed, it means the bed and banks are part of the public trust. So, as I recall navigability in Oregon has more to do with who owns the bed and banks, really, than the water.
 
The Oregon AG did no favor to the state's citizen majority with that opinion. Riparian owners tend to be more affluent and have more access to lawyers than non-riparian owners, so IMO that is why state AGs tend to bend toward the owners' favor. There is a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that I have filed away somewhere that concludes that if water . . . "is navigable in fact, it is navigable at law." Problem is, state governments are more in the pockets of monied interests than advocating for the rest of us. So unless you have the time and means, it is damn near impossible to get a navigability determination for your personal favorite fishing hole.

Tom points to the Adirondack Shingle case and a raft of shingles. I think the case ruling I read pertained to "saw logs," defined as a log of at least 8" diameter and 48" in length. That would make most any creek of consequence navigable for commerce, but I ain't no lawyer.
 
Way back when, the rivers were the highways. They were used to transport good from one location to another ... similar to our highways today. At one point, land owners were restricting commerce by shutting down access to moving beaver pelt, or whatever, to market. The government had to step in and created the river rights laws and trusts. You can imagine what would happen if a landowner next to I-5 had a deed that indicated he owned the land below the pavement and tried to shut it down for his own personal gain.

Just because deed is written in error does not mean it is valid.

At the time I was involved in the ongoing war, there was only one recorded law suit that ended in favor of the landowner and that was at the mouth of a river as it entered the ocean. (the rules are different for tidal areas)

The most recent case I'm aware of was a land owner attempting to keep boaters from landing below the high water mark on a stretch of the Wallowa River. It went to court and the judge used the AG opinion of 2005 to judge against the land owner and for the river users.

However. Like I've always said. If you do run up against a land owner who is having a fit about you fishing next to their property, unless you have a lot of money to pay for lawyers and a lot of time to spend in court, just move on and fish somewhere else. Changes are you will win the case but It can be very expensive to make a point.
 
I had a shotgun pointed in my direction from a land owner aboard an ATV while wading an OR coastal minor tributary that was too small for a drift boat, a productive wild winter steelhead run I had discovered and kept quiet about during the decade I had been fishing it.
I had entered the river at a bridge abutment, which is deemed by OR to be state property, with the intent to exit the river on the next downstream abutment. I had done this dozens of times before the incident.
Ordered out of the river and escorted to the adjacent road, I immediately called the Sheriffs office and waited at my rig for 45 mins for a unit to arrive to formalize my complaint. The responding sheriff called me the next day to say his visit to the landowner, apparently a well known hothead, did not go well and strongly recommended I avoid that stretch of river regardless of legal rights.
A shotgun makes for a convincing 'stay the F out of my river' argument.
 
I had a shotgun pointed in my direction from a land owner aboard an ATV while wading an OR coastal minor tributary that was too small for a drift boat, a productive wild winter steelhead run I had discovered and kept quiet about during the decade I had been fishing it.
I had entered the river at a bridge abutment, which is deemed by OR to be state property, with the intent to exit the river on the next downstream abutment. I had done this dozens of times before the incident.
Ordered out of the river and escorted to the adjacent road, I immediately called the Sheriffs office and waited at my rig for 45 mins for a unit to arrive to formalize my complaint. The responding sheriff called me the next day to say his visit to the landowner, apparently a well known hothead, did not go well and strongly recommended I avoid that stretch of river regardless of legal rights.
A shotgun makes for a convincing 'stay the F out of my river' argument.
Yup. You gott'a pick your battles. The poor sheriff's dept usually is not well versed on river rights and I know some anglers who carry around written information in regards to river rights to show law enforcement if they are ever called and show up ... but really, is it really worth it?
 
I had a shotgun pointed in my direction from a land owner aboard an ATV while wading an OR coastal minor tributary that was too small for a drift boat, a productive wild winter steelhead run I had discovered and kept quiet about during the decade I had been fishing it.
I had entered the river at a bridge abutment, which is deemed by OR to be state property, with the intent to exit the river on the next downstream abutment. I had done this dozens of times before the incident.
Ordered out of the river and escorted to the adjacent road, I immediately called the Sheriffs office and waited at my rig for 45 mins for a unit to arrive to formalize my complaint. The responding sheriff called me the next day to say his visit to the landowner, apparently a well known hothead, did not go well and strongly recommended I avoid that stretch of river regardless of legal rights.
A shotgun makes for a convincing 'stay the F out of my river' argument.
I want to know why the Sheriff decided YOU need to change your ways and not the guy who pointed the gun at you.
 
Way back when, the rivers were the highways.
Yup. I got the Touchet, part of the first transcontinental way in 1803, which I've mentioned a time or three:)
There are a couple miles of the Tucannon I used to avoid, gun guy.
 
I want to know why the Sheriff decided YOU need to change your ways and not the guy who pointed the gun at you.
That is an excellent point !

I remember another river rights case where the landowner claimed his deed indicated he owned the river and the land under the river. He tried to press charges against some river users and they took him to court. Guess what? The officials checked his deed and nowhere did it indicate he owned the river and the riverbed ... nowhere. Obviously he lost.
 
Way back when, the rivers were the highways. They were used to transport good from one location to another ... similar to our highways today. At one point, land owners were restricting commerce by shutting down access to moving beaver pelt, or whatever, to market. The government had to step in and created the river rights laws and trusts. You can imagine what would happen if a landowner next to I-5 had a deed that indicated he owned the land below the pavement and tried to shut it down for his own personal gain.

Just because deed is written in error does not mean it is valid.

At the time I was involved in the ongoing war, there was only one recorded law suit that ended in favor of the landowner and that was at the mouth of a river as it entered the ocean. (the rules are different for tidal areas)

The most recent case I'm aware of was a land owner attempting to keep boaters from landing below the high water mark on a stretch of the Wallowa River. It went to court and the judge used the AG opinion of 2005 to judge against the land owner and for the river users.

However. Like I've always said. If you do run up against a land owner who is having a fit about you fishing next to their property, unless you have a lot of money to pay for lawyers and a lot of time to spend in court, just move on and fish somewhere else. Changes are you will win the case but It can be very expensive to make a point.
Those rights date back to Roman Emperor Justinian. Here is an interesting bit of history from the Vermont Supreme Court in a case where a bass fisherman wanted to fish in a human powered craft on a lake that had been closed to use for many decades to be used a drinking water reservoir. There were some big bass in that lake and I fished it a few times after he won his case:

17. State trusteeship over navigable waters has a lengthy and somewhat mythic pedigree dating back to Roman and English law. *450 The first oft-cited origin lies in Justinian: “By the law of nature these things are common to mankind—the air, running water, the sea, and consequently the shores of the sea. No one, therefore, is forbidden to approach the sea-shore ....” Institutes bk. II, tit. 1, § 1 (T. Sandars trans., 1st Am. ed. 1876). Glimmers of this idea of common trusteeship are found in the Magna Carta, which, among other things, placed constraints on the crown's authority over navigable waters and fisheries. See, e.g., H. Sun, Toward a New Social–Political Theory of the Public Trust Doctrine, 35 Vt. L.Rev. 563, 570 (2011) ( “In England, thanks to the Magna Carta, the public trust doctrine was included as part of English common law in order to restrict the Crown's proprietary control over certain natural resources.”). The extent to which these early conceptions prohibited private ownership is an open question, see P. Deveney, Title, Jus Publicum, and the Public Trust: An Historical Analysis, 1 Sea Grant L.J. 13 (1976) (contesting the modern public trust doctrine's history in Roman and English law); see also J. Huffman, Speaking of Inconvenient Truths—A History of the Public Trust Doctrine, 18 Duke Envtl. L. & Pol'y F. 1 (2007) (similar), but it is clear that natural resources including navigable waters were considered to be at least initially common property subject to certain public rights. As the U.S. Supreme Court has explained, this idea became part of American common law: “[W]hen the [American] Revolution took place, the people of each state became themselves sovereign; and in that character hold the absolute right to all their navigable waters and the soils under them for their own common use, subject only to the rights since surrendered by the Constitution to the general government.” Martin v. Lessee of Waddell, 41 U.S. (16 Pet.) 367, 410, 10 L.Ed. 997 (1842); see also Ill. Cent. R.R. v. Illinois, 146 U.S. 387, 452, 13 S.Ct. 110, 36 L.Ed. 1018 (1892) **128 (“It is a title held in trust for the people of the State that they may enjoy the navigation of the waters, carry on commerce over them, and have liberty of fishing therein freed from the obstruction or interference of private parties.”); cf. 1 V.S.A. § 271 (stating that English common law is the law of Vermont if “applicable to the local situation and circumstances” and “not repugnant to the constitution or laws”).
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¶ 18. Since 1777, the public trust doctrine has been entrenched in the Vermont Constitution, which reads:
The inhabitants of this State shall have liberty in seasonable times, to hunt and fowl on the lands they *451 hold, and on other lands not inclosed, and in like manner to fish in all boatable and other waters (not private property) under proper regulations, to be made and provided by the General Assembly.
Vt. Const. ch. II, § 67; see also R. Brooks, Speaking (Vermont) Truth to (Washington) Power, 29 Vt. L.Rev. 877, 885 (2005) (“This provision has been [taken] to establish a public trust in Vermont's natural resources which is now recognized in her statutes and regulations.”).
City of Montpelier v. Barnett, 2012 VT 32, ¶¶ 17-18, 191 Vt. 441, 449–51, 49 A.3d 120, 127–28 (2012).
 
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I think once you pass the border into Tribal land, You are subject to Tribal Law. It's just like passing the border from Washington into Oregon, where you would be subject to Oregon Law.

Actually, since a Tribe in Wa State is a considered Sovereign Nation, their rights are quite strong.
Yes, tribal LAND. But what if you aren't on tribal LAND, but on WATER. I think that's what the kerfufle is about.
 
Those rights date back to Roman Emperor Justinian
Did not have Justinian on my bingo card for this thread.

Justinian's Flea...a good book, not much in it about river rights though.
 
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