Marine Area 9 - I need your help

Stonedfish

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Apologies for this post being long winded.
We are a week out from the MA 9 opener, so I wanted to get this posted.
Comments, suggestions and criticisms are welcome.
Please feel free to share this on other forums or groups prior to the 7/17 opener.

Attention: MA 9 Beach Anglers
In 2024, a WDFW regulation change in MA 9 only allowed coho fishing on days that chinook fishing was open. In years past, you could fish for coho and pinks on non-chinook days.
The end result of that regulation change is as follows.
2023 – We had 19 days of July Coho and Pink Fishing in MA 9.
2024 – We had 3 days of Coho fishing in MA 9 out of a potential 14 days.
2025 – We currently have only 3 days of Coho and Pink fishing scheduled (7/17 to 7/19) in MA 9 out of a potential 15 days unless additional chinook days are added.
2026 – We have the potential for 16 days of July Coho fishing in MA 9 provided the opener is on 7/16.
I would like to change this but will need your help.
Here is my ask.
Please fill out a Voluntary Trip Report form after each MA 9 beach trip this summer. The form can be found online using the link below. Please submit a report even if you don’t catch anything.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/licenses/fishing/trip-reporting
This is very important. In the area on the form that asks for your name, please put Beach Angler followed by your name.
Example - Beach Angler / John Doe

I have attached a photo example of what the Voluntary Trip Report looks like on WDFW’s website.
With your help, my goal is to have beach angling for coho, and pinks open in MA 9 on non-chinook days in future seasons.

Since beach creel checks have become rather uncommon these days, WDFW and the co-managers want data regarding chinook impacts from beach fisheries. We know chinook impacts from the beach are not zero, but they are extremely low based on my beach fishing experience.
In my lifetime, MA 9 has gone from being open year-round to two months and three days, which is our season this year. Hopefully, the data we gather can prove this and we can get back our July MA 9 opportunity in the future. This is also not a new fishery. We had this fishery for years prior to 2024.
Some people I have spoken with have expressed concern that WDFW will use data from these trip reports against us.
I understand their concerns but other than outright closures can our fishing opportunities really be reduced much more than they currently are? We have lost all of October and now most of July.
As we have learned in other fisheries, closing things is easy, getting them back open again is not.
I originally proposed this to the advisory group as both a boat and beach fishery, but with chinook encounters being a concern the boat option is not likely, so I would like to focus on beach only fishing in July on non-chinook days.
Beach only fishing is not a new concept. It has been used as a management tool in both MA 9 and MA 11 in the past. This would have been a perfect year to have this regulation change with a forecast of 700k+ coho and nearly 8 million pinks. MA 9 has had excellent July resident coho fishing in past years plus the early portion of the pink run, yet we will only get three July days as of now.

Rather than turning this into a WDFW bashing, I would prefer to see what we can accomplish as an angling community by using citizen science to collect data via the voluntary trip reports to gain more opportunity. If you need to bash anyone, feel free to bash me.
I cannot promise I can get this done or that it will be easy, but I will work hard and continue my efforts to do so. I appreciate any help you can provide.
For full transparency, I am a member of the WDFW Puget Sound Sport Fishing Advisory Group.

Thanks,
Brian Stone

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I will be filling out & these forms throughout this MA9 salmon season and as many future seasons as it takes.
PNWFF Members, What is your profession?

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The dock fishermen don't stop fishing for salmon during chinook closures. Open up the MA9 beaches: July and October!
 
I'll be filling out these forms as well. It's a good effort to try and expand our fishing opportunities!
 
Brian, can you let us know exactly what "sub legal" Chinook are, in regards to the form? I think for the Sound, sublegal Chinook are sort of jack sized, for a management bin? Or does that include 4" shakers too?

I suspect they mostly want to get an estimate of coho to Chinook encounter ratios, especially adults, but I am sure juvenile encounters are important to the data collection too.

I would emphasize to everyone the importance of submitting reports for bad days too, when nobody can buy a bite. If we are only submitting reports for the good days, or just Stonefish and Jasmillo are submitting reports, WDFW might get an inaccurate, and potentially concerning, picture of beach fishing success.
 
Brian, can you let us know exactly what "sub legal" Chinook are, in regards to the form? I think for the Sound, sublegal Chinook are sort of jack sized, for a management bin? Or does that include 4" shakers too?

I suspect they mostly want to get an estimate of coho to Chinook encounter ratios, especially adults, but I am sure juvenile encounters are important to the data collection too.

I would emphasize to everyone the importance of submitting reports for bad days too, when nobody can buy a bite. If we are only submitting reports for the good days, or just Stonefish and Jasmillo are submitting reports, WDFW might get an inaccurate, and potentially concerning, picture of beach fishing success.
Good points above. Submit data for everyday beach fishing, especially during the 3 days of July 17, 18, 19.

A good beach angler quickly moves on if juvenile chinook are encountered on a stretch of beach. They can easily be avoided.
 
Brian, can you let us know exactly what "sub legal" Chinook are, in regards to the form? I think for the Sound, sublegal Chinook are sort of jack sized, for a management bin? Or does that include 4" shakers too?

I suspect they mostly want to get an estimate of coho to Chinook encounter ratios, especially adults, but I am sure juvenile encounters are important to the data collection too.

I would emphasize to everyone the importance of submitting reports for bad days too, when nobody can buy a bite. If we are only submitting reports for the good days, or just Stonefish and Jasmillo are submitting reports, WDFW might get an inaccurate, and potentially concerning, picture of beach fishing success.

Ed,
I will check to confirm but I suspect sublegal is anything under 22”.
You are correct, skunk days where you don’t touch a fish are important to submit reports as well.
As @DimeBrite stated, if you start encountering small chinook, it’s time to relocate.
SF
 
Good stuff Brian!

Yes, a sub-legal Chinook is one smaller than the legal size, that is 22 inches.

I think someone should ask for an emergency regulation change to allow that coho opportunity in MA 9 in July and if not given ask why such season isn't appropriate. Not that I suspect that you will get it, but it should help to clarify the agency's thinking as to why such a season isn't reasonable. But rather it would begin the building of the information needed to push your desire for that opportunity in the 2026 NOF process.

Need to also realize that it will take a collective effort to push this ball up the hill.

curt
 
There was one thing I had requested and will be doing so again. That was if the 3,900 MA 9 chinook quota gets burned up in the first three days (7/17 - 7/19), that coho and pink fishing be opened immediately via emergency regulation. That also isn’t a new concept and has been done in the past. Doing so would give us 12 additional days of fishing if it opened on 7/20. Nothing happens fast when working with government entities, so we’ll see how things go.
SF
 
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I like your hopeful outlook. I just cant see the Department really paying any attention to sport fishers.
But what the heck I’ll give it a shot. Especially if it annoys the Department heads at the top.
 
I like your hopeful outlook. I just cant see the Department really paying any attention to sport fishers.
But what the heck I’ll give it a shot. Especially if it annoys the Department heads at the top.

I totally get lots of folks don’t trust WDFW.
You never know unless you give it a try, which I’m willing to do.
The other option is to just accept the status quo and continue to let things get cut.
SF
 
Now that the MA 9 season is coming to an end, I wanted to thank everyone who took the time to submit trip reports. The data will be very helpful in my efforts to get our July beach fishing restored.
It was a very odd year for coho, at least for me. There just didn’t seem to be a lot of fish up on the beaches this summer versus past years. Some proven spots produced little to no fish. I noticed the same with pinks as well. Lots of jumpers but many well offshore. I’ve seen this drill before and every year is different though.
Thanks again!
SF
 
Now that the MA 9 season is coming to an end, I wanted to thank everyone who took the time to submit trip reports. The data will be very helpful in my efforts to get our July beach fishing restored.
It was a very odd year for coho, at least for me. There just didn’t seem to be a lot of fish up on the beaches this summer versus past years. Some proven spots produced little to no fish. I noticed the same with pinks as well. Lots of jumpers but many well offshore. I’ve seen this drill before and every year is different though.
Thanks again!
SF
Agree 100% on fish behavior/weird stuff. Though I didn’t get to concentrate much on coho they acted pretty much like last year out in the salt, jumping & blazing by the beaches. Pinks kinda copied them from time to time but then there were days of good bites & a few days of crazy good but mostly weird. I feel like I should be given the job of flagger to wave off the boats who think they just have power right past shore as close as they can. Them & the salad fest some days almost ruined the fishing & fun.
 
Just a quick update. The tentative 2026 NOF meeting schedule has been posted. Meeting locations to be determined.
I highly recommend you listen and participate with comments on the fisheries you want.
I’ll continue to work on my July beach fishing proposal, which as I mentioned with the current state of things will not be easy.
SF

 
Sorry if it seems like I’m beating a dead horse with this, but if you’d like to have MA 9 coho and pink beach fishing restored in July on non chinook days, please submit your comments for NOF 2026 in the link below.
Also please submitted comments on any other fisheries or regulations you’d like to see changed.
Thanks to those that have already commented.
SF

 
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What I struggle to understand is why the Department (and anglers?) seem so dead-set on holding summer chinook retention seasons starting in mid July. It feels to me as though A9 seasons are being held hostage by that decision.

Past years A9 has opened 7 days a week starting 8/1, so there is apparently enough chinook impacts available to allow salmon fishing, both boat and bank (with chinook release), 7 days a week that month. Would there be enough impacts to provide for 7 days a week coho only retention for the month of July, or last two weeks of July, while still allowing the limited chinook retention days starting 8/1? Or would additional coho only retention fisheries in July eat up all available chinook impacts for A9?

Given that the most often limiting stock, NF Stillaguamish chinook, are an earlier river entry stock, I have to think delaying the opening of summer chinook retention fisheries would have some benefits there as well. You can't encounter fish in the saltwater if they're already in the river.

An 8/1 chinook opener in A9 would also help A10, assuming the chinook opener for A10 was adjusted to correspond with A9. WDFW provided a publication a few NOF ago on that, showing how an 8/1 chinook opener in A10 would have helped avoid some of the sublegal encounter issues that led to early closures in A10 during past seasons.
 
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