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Evan B

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Currently, as of the time of me writing this first post, have a half dozen guys in/on my house installing solar panels. Wife and I decided with the rate hikes on our power bill we've been getting, and with the additional rate hikes, it was time to seriously consider it. After getting a few quotes, it made even more sense. Also explains why seemingly half the houses in my neighborhood have solar panels on them.

I started by researching a local outfit with a very stellar reputation. Their rep came to my house and gave us a presentation breaking down the power bill we sent to them, and how things would look for us with various solar options. All in all, these guys were really great and did an awesome job. Seemed like an outfit we could really get behind to do the work for us.

Here's the breakdown the made of our power usage by month and the estimated solar power generation from their proposed system. Their system they quoted would generate approximately 101% of our annual power needs. How it works is that your solar system is hooked in to the power grid, not your house directly. You "sell" your power to the power company for credits. So if and when you generate far more power in the summer than you use, those credits will be applied to the winter months when you're flipped in the other direction. The goal is to totally offset your annual usage.

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The model showing our house and proposed panels:
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After the great experience with this outfit, I come to find out that a friend of mine who's a contractor and reps for another solar outfit. So I told him to throw his name in the hat as well. So him and the company he's affiliated with put together another bid for us. They proposed a system that gave us 109% of our estimated usage: as both a buffer and to account for the degredation over time of a solar panel. Best part, it was all that, with the same panels and inverter, for a bit less in cost of the first system we had quoted. Seemed like a no brainer.

I'll report back as things start operating in the coming months. But if you're considering it, it makes more sense to at least look in to it than you'd think. Even if you finance it, chances are your monthly payments will be similar to your monthly power bill, while avoiding the future rate hikes on the way. Obviously some houses and properties are better equipped than others, but just thought I'd put this out there in case it helps anyone.

Them starting with the brackets:
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Hooray for panels!
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Looks nice. How does it work/interact with the existing building roof/shingles (impact on water resistance, and longevity) and with the roof structurally? If you get a roof leak can the panels be removed easily to access/fix?
 
Looks nice. How does it work/interact with the existing building roof/shingles (impact on water resistance, and longevity) and with the roof structurally? If you get a roof leak can the panels be removed easily to access/fix?
The brackets use this really thick tape-type thing. When they screw down the lag bolt, it pulls the goop from the tape down with it and seals it up. Sounds like a pretty reliable seal from my research.

Any panel can be removed if anything needs to be worked on later, so isn't much of an issue other than a minor inconvenience. Thankfully my roof is only a couple years old so don't anticipate much for issues.
 
Good. Of my acquaintances that have solar, those with leased systems seem to be the most disappointed with the outcome. Leasees receive few incentives, poor service, and are often subject to a lot of fine print contract clawbacks.
Yeah my friend told me the same thing. Said purchasing, even if you finance, is the way to go.
 
Good. Of my acquaintances that have solar, those with leased systems seem to be the most disappointed with the outcome. Leasees receive few incentives, poor service, and are often subject to a lot of fine print contract clawbacks.

Yeah my friend told me the same thing. Said purchasing, even if you finance, is the way to go.

That was our issue when we looked at a home with solar, the lease was part of the sale. We heard a lot of issues with leased systems, and very hard to get out of the lease. We passed.

Good luck with your new system.
 
Is there any storage with your system, that will supply your house with electricity during a power outage?
 
Is there any storage with your system, that will supply your house with electricity during a power outage?
No battery bank. I just couldn't justify it. We don't lose power here very often and when we do, my generator will get us through just fine.
 
I looked into solar 10 years ago, it didn't pencil out. I looked into it last year, it didn't pencil out. I have gas for my fireplace, hot water tank, furnace, stove and outdoor grill. We don't use that much electricity.
If gas prices go up enough, I'll be calling the solar installation crew. I think it's a great idea and if people can make it work, they should do it.
 
I looked into solar 10 years ago, it didn't pencil out. I looked into it last year, it didn't pencil out. I have gas for my fireplace, hot water tank, furnace, stove and outdoor grill. We don't use that much electricity.
If gas prices go up enough, I'll be calling the solar installation crew. I think it's a great idea and if people can make it work, they should do it.
Didn't pencil out for me until the recent rate hikes from PG&E. I think that's why I'm seeing so many panels being installed around me.
 
The one portion that is tough to factor in is how much does your home appreciate due to solar panels? Is there a value in the form conspicuous conservation?
 
We considered it as well, but, we not planning on staying at this house for more than 5 years now, so we couldn’t see the return of investment. The claim that it add value to the house, but, for as little time we plan to stay here, I don’t think so.
 
Currently, as of the time of me writing this first post, have a half dozen guys in/on my house installing solar panels. Wife and I decided with the rate hikes on our power bill we've been getting, and with the additional rate hikes, it was time to seriously consider it. After getting a few quotes, it made even more sense. Also explains why seemingly half the houses in my neighborhood have solar panels on them.

I started by researching a local outfit with a very stellar reputation. Their rep came to my house and gave us a presentation breaking down the power bill we sent to them, and how things would look for us with various solar options. All in all, these guys were really great and did an awesome job. Seemed like an outfit we could really get behind to do the work for us.

Here's the breakdown the made of our power usage by month and the estimated solar power generation from their proposed system. Their system they quoted would generate approximately 101% of our annual power needs. How it works is that your solar system is hooked in to the power grid, not your house directly. You "sell" your power to the power company for credits. So if and when you generate far more power in the summer than you use, those credits will be applied to the winter months when you're flipped in the other direction. The goal is to totally offset your annual usage.

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The model showing our house and proposed panels:
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After the great experience with this outfit, I come to find out that a friend of mine who's a contractor and reps for another solar outfit. So I told him to throw his name in the hat as well. So him and the company he's affiliated with put together another bid for us. They proposed a system that gave us 109% of our estimated usage: as both a buffer and to account for the degredation over time of a solar panel. Best part, it was all that, with the same panels and inverter, for a bit less in cost of the first system we had quoted. Seemed like a no brainer.

I'll report back as things start operating in the coming months. But if you're considering it, it makes more sense to at least look in to it than you'd think. Even if you finance it, chances are your monthly payments will be similar to your monthly power bill, while avoiding the future rate hikes on the way. Obviously some houses and properties are better equipped than others, but just thought I'd put this out there in case it helps anyone.

Them starting with the brackets:
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Hooray for panels!
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Can you explain to me, if they explained to you... how do you clean them? I have seen pretty fair reduction in production rate with just a couple weeks of dust and even more by the end of a month. (Both flat and slanted panels). Do you have a mean on your end for production rate or are you dependent on PUD to tell you?

Thanks
 
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