Edge Fly Rods mini review

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I bought a couple of Edge Rods (https://edgerods.com/) last year and have finally fished with both. Thought I’d provide my thoughts here. Both are Archetype models; a 1267 Spey and a 907 single hander. The Archetype series is their basic fly series with cork grips. Edge sells two higher end fly rod lines, the Gamma Alpha and Gamma Beta, which are roughly double the cost and look pretty nice. But those come with woven graphite grips, which is not my preference. I have not held or tried a rod from either of those lines.

Edge is a relatively new company that uses blanks from North Fork Composites. Edge sells only direct to consumer, and I feel that their primary target market is gear fishing, like bass, walleye, etc. Fly rods seem to be an afterthought. The B2C model means that their rods are sold at a significant discount vs. a rod sold through a fly shop. Of course, unless you live near Woodland WA or have a friend that owns the rod you are considering, you can’t test cast them. I chose to order them sight unseen since the prices were so good and I really didn’t feel like driving down to Woodland. They are intended to be workhorses, not finesse rods. Just needed decent tools for salmon, steelhead and bull trout.

Lead time – The Spey rod was ordered November 20th and delivered April 2, about 4.5 months later. I got the rod, but not the rod sock or tube. The rod sock came a few months later, but I still don’t have the tube.

The single-hander was ordered December 12 and delivered in July. Again, no rod tube, but had the rod sock. They keep promising the tubes, but nothing so far after around 9 months.

To be fair, the web site said that it could take a couple of months for delivery, but the actual times were significantly longer. Also, when I checked on things, the customer service person was very nice, but couldn’t do a lot to speed things along.

Workmanship – Both rods are matte black, unsanded, with robin’s egg blue wraps. I like the unsanded blanks. Not a huge fan of the blue wraps, but not a big deal.

The wraps on the Spey were a bit rough (see pic). This was typical of the wraps throughout the rod. They are serviceable (I’m not going to lose a guide) but not particularly craftsman-like. The wraps on the single hander were much better. Maybe they are getting a better handle on QC as the operation matures.

You can buy the LMX blanks from North Fork Composites for about $100, so if you build rods, you might want to consider doing it yourself. I may go that direction next time.

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Cork is decent and grips are comfortable. Here's a pic of the grip on the Spey rod.

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Performance – I like casting both rods very much. The Spey is a serious gun. I’m not a great Spey caster, but it’s got a fast action that allows me to throw 80 feet with ease. In fact, I generally found myself having to dial back the power when steelhead fishing on the Seymour River in BC. I’ve had some pretty good Spey casters try it, and the general opinion is that it’s a comfortable rod and fun to cast. After a bit of experimentation, I landed on a 550 gr Skagit Max head, which is larger than I had expected. Unfortunately, It’s very similar to the line I throw with my Sage 14’ brownie, which is rated as a 9-wt, and my Sage 1268 greenie. So, I haven’t gained much versatility vs. the rest of my quiver and you should consider this if you are looking for a lighter wt Spey rod.

The single hander is also nice to cast. Light in hand and balances well with an older Lamson Litespeed 4 reel. I’ve cast it with 7wt type III sinking and floating lines, and it’s very comfortable and smooth. Action on the faster end, but not stiff at all. Seems fairly true to line wt., maybe preferring a slightly heavy line.

Bottom line: Performance is much better than I would expect from another rod at a similar cost, and it’s made in the PNW. Seriously long lead times and still waiting on the rod tubes, so not great on prompt delivery. Workmanship serviceable, but not great. If they get the wraps a bit tighter from now on, they’ll be making progress. Cost of each was about $225 on sale, so on balance, I got about what I expected from the cosmetics. Unless you are highly fixated on cosmetics, these are fine rods. Very comfortable to cast and enjoyable to fish. I expect to give them quite a bit of use.

I’d be interested to hear from other folks who have purchased fly rods from Edge.
 
I'm at week six of my 3-5 week shipping estimate. I notice that the website doesn't include a rod case with the Archetype series anymore but I'm all but positive it did when I ordered. Not holding my breath at this point.
 
I wrote a review of my Edge 4 wt. 9'6" single some time ago. I guess I don't disagree, the esthetics are not spectacular, it's quite castable and fishable, ya gotta wait, I got the tube, sock and rod all at once. For the price, I love it. For 3 time the price, it's okay, but likey won't get me laid in West.
 
I only have one factory edge rod but have built on a ton of blanks. Sure sometimes orders take awhile but they always get there eventually. But for a Gary loomis designed and built blank with top notch tech, they are the best value in blanks going these days.
 
I called to check up on my order and got the same condescending guy give me the same "these are Gary Loomis blanks..." speech, while telling me that their 3-5 week estimate was just something they had on the website and "the honest truth is we don't know when rods will ship".

I was hoping that Edge was run differently than NFC but apparently not. 0-2 Never again.
 
I bought a 9’9. Did not get a tube. It was delayed longer than the initial timeframe significantly. The staff has been very friendly and communicative about the time and no tube.
I think the rod is beautiful. It is a cannon and I like a more chill rod. But once I get the hang of it, if I get the hang of it, I hope to like it. Bought for stripers and salmon .
Fwiw
 
I bought a 9’9. Did not get a tube. It was delayed longer than the initial timeframe significantly. The staff has been very friendly and communicative about the time and no tube.
I think the rod is beautiful. It is a cannon and I like a more chill rod. But once I get the hang of it, if I get the hang of it, I hope to like it. Bought for stripers and salmon .
Fwiw
Did the staff initiate communication or did you have to call in and check up? If I didn't initiate communication there's no way they would have volunteered anything and I'd be completely in the dark.
 
Built (mostly me but PhilR finished for me---the parts I didn't feel like doing) up the NFC 5wt that was shipped very quickly.

ordered the 11' 2wt Edge Archetype and it shipped and was delivered very quickly.

VERY happy with both performance and how fast they shipped!

ordered an Archetype 10wt about 3 months ago figuring I was due for a longer shipping time....well, I emailed several weeks ago, and while it took a week or so for them to get back, they were respectful with their response and was told that they were having a cork issue. I went in eyes wide open with regard to shipping issues, so I'm not disappointed at all. If I really needed it in a timely fashion, I wouldn't have gone this route. I'm glad I am though because they're outstanding rods....just gotta wait a little bit sometimes.
 
Did the staff initiate communication or did you have to call in and check up? If I didn't initiate communication there's no way they would have volunteered anything and I'd be completely in the dark.
I bugged them regularly. They sent me an email when it was ready to ship, everything else was me.
 
Built (mostly me but PhilR finished for me---the parts I didn't feel like doing) up the NFC 5wt that was shipped very quickly.

ordered the 11' 2wt Edge Archetype and it shipped and was delivered very quickly.

VERY happy with both performance and how fast they shipped!

ordered an Archetype 10wt about 3 months ago figuring I was due for a longer shipping time....well, I emailed several weeks ago, and while it took a week or so for them to get back, they were respectful with their response and was told that they were having a cork issue. I went in eyes wide open with regard to shipping issues, so I'm not disappointed at all. If I really needed it in a timely fashion, I wouldn't have gone this route. I'm glad I am though because they're outstanding rods....just gotta wait a little bit sometimes.
I wouldn't be disappointed if they held to their word. Unfortunately the verbiage on their website is total BS, they know it, their phone manners are garbage, and they don't seem to care.
@John Svahn did you also get the same "these are Gary Loomis blanks..." speech from S____ or is that just me?
 
I was just checking emails…. Not directly. I did get a response that they had to order the blanks from the factory. I thought it was all the same spot but maybe the blanks are made on a different track than the whole rods.
 
I wouldn't be disappointed if they held to their word. Unfortunately the verbiage on their website is total BS, they know it, their phone manners are garbage, and they don't seem to care.
@John Svahn did you also get the same "these are Gary Loomis blanks..." speech from S____ or is that just me?
Yeah, I totally get that....and I knew that going in initially.

In addition to the aforementioned rods/blanks from NFC/Edge, I've ordered a number of the glass blanks from NFC with the same quick shipping. I guess, as one who fully expected the worst from day one (with regard to shipping, not quality/performance), having one out of some 5 or 6 orders go along that line, I'm pretty happy...low standard, I know, but also what I expected from the start. Does it suck waiting forever for a rod to ship? of course, but I like those blanks and I like the rods and I don't need it anytime soon...Do I think that's a good way to continue to do business long term? not really.
 
My mother always told me “good things come to those who wait”. I still remember the months waiting for things we ordered from the sears catalog.
If I needed a rod or blank tomorrow, north fork is not where I’d order from. But for next season I’ll put my order in early knowing I’ll get a good product.
 
My mother always told me “good things come to those who wait”. I still remember the months waiting for things we ordered from the sears catalog.
If I needed a rod or blank tomorrow, north fork is not where I’d order from. But for next season I’ll put my order in early knowing I’ll get a good product.
My mother told me to be honest with people. I'm happy to wait if it's within expectations but Edge/NFC is not honest and S_____ admitted as such on the phone. That's unacceptable in my book.

I didn't need this rod tomorrow when I ordered it six weeks ago, expecting three to five weeks as advertised, but I could definitely use it tomorrow since I'm out the door for a month on Sunday. Looks like I'll have a rod for next season.
 
I pickup my blanks from them and seldom ship. Good guys and gals, they also have huge accounts with popular rod brands that we all likely have used. NFC and edge are made in the same facility with the same customer service. Rods are wrapped about 10yards from where the blanks are stored.

Are you sure you didn’t rub someone the wrong way? I sort of remember you being upset from day one of this order 🙃
 
I pickup my blanks from them and seldom ship. Good guys and gals, they also have huge accounts with popular rod brands that we all likely have used. NFC and edge are made in the same facility with the same customer service. Rods are wrapped about 10yards from where the blanks are stored.

Are you sure you didn’t rub someone the wrong way? I sort of remember you being upset from day one of this order 🙃
I was upset from day one of the NFC order when S____ gave me shit for reading the terms on their website back to them. K_____, his manager, later apologized for his behavior.

This was a different order. I wasn't pissed until I called to check in on my order that was later than the terms they wrote on their website and got the same condescending attitude from S____ and his admission that they know the terms they put on their own website are BS. Seems like he's forgotten what K_____ told him.

If NFC doesn't want to offer free shipping on orders over $75 then they shouldn't advertise it. If Edge has no intention of abiding by the verbiage on their website that says "in stock" and "ships in 3-5 weeks" but really mean "we have no idea when an order will ship", then they should advertise accordingly so consumers know what they're getting into. Consumers shouldn't have to rely on PNWFF to get the real deal from a company.

Considering NFC and Edge are basically the same company run by the same people, it's surprising that NFC knows how bad their website is but the Edge website is fine.

Next time, which will likely be never, I'll have you drive by and pick something up for me. 🤪
 
My customer experience with Edge Rods was a nightmare, you can search for the details. For me, "Made in the USA" did not mean better.
 
I ordered an eight weight during the Fourth of July sale they had and received it in about two weeks. Beautiful rod. Got the letter saying a tube was forthcoming, have not seen it yet, and would have bought the rod at that price without a tube frankly, but I will wait patiently, I have other tubes I could use.
I watch people who are quick to be confrontational, it can be a quick way to complicate something if the person they are dealing with is someone who reacts to that sort of thing. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and kindly communicate what I am looking for to see if there might be a solution. My wife is more of the reactionary type, and I have seen situations downgrade rather quickly when someone pushes her buttons. I don't know what happened with either of you, but it sounds like folks are having very different experiences, and it might be worth looking inward.
 
I got a response from a manager at Edge, once again apologizing for the service I received. They also told me the rod was finished and would ship (I got shipping confirmation 30 mins later) but they are waiting for the sock and tube. Apparently they ran out of socks three weeks ago and are waiting to receive more but have no idea when they'll arrive, and they ordered tubes in November of last year but still have no idea when they will arrive. So those of you who are also waiting for tubes... don't hold your breath.

NFC/Edge should be more honest with their customers about the realities of their stock/shipping instead of waiting for us to contact them wondering about long lost orders. Furthermore, their customer service person S____ probably shouldn't be answering phones if their preferred method of customer service is being condescending confrontational a-hole to their customers. I started out both of my inquiries by being polite and giving the benefit of the doubt but S____ derailed all of that both times.

In other news: With the exception of the tip top, I just finished building up the 10wt NFC blank. The blank had some sanding irregularities around the ferrules and wasn't as nice out of the plastic as the Mud Hole blanks I've built up before. Hopefully it fishes well.
 
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