Douglas Sky G?
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Bass-O-Matic
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I have both S and the standard butt 6#s. I prefer the S overall. I suspect it has much to do with how it matches the lines I have?
Tinker
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Thank you. I appreciate it.
Bass-O-Matic
Life of the Party
If you get over to Ellensburg you can try them side by side if you want.
Bass-O-Matic
Life of the Party
A little side note on an DO Set G S/fighting butt version experiment.
I have been watching a friend struggle with run & gun fishing on the Yak, particularly at higher flows. Add in our often significant breezes just exacerbates the challenges let alone the need to put flies tight to the bank. Factor in your moving at a good clip with summer flows and you often only get one shot it comes down to "bring your A game". This person tends to make multiple false casts like it's required by law. On top that he tends to want to use his 10' lake/tube rod in spite of the fact in a drift boat you are standing on top of the water. I'll give him a break in that he has a short history with run & gun type of fishing, he does fine wading. Anyway my frustrations watching the struggle left me looking for some solutions.
Roughy a few decades ago I had a discussion with the late Tim Irish (local and first WA trout guide) about this type of fishing. We were of similar thinking in that basic physics dictate the shorter the rod the more easily one can make accurate casts. On top of that in full flows you run your boat close to the bank so distance is not required as fish are tight to the bank to avoid the fast moving water. So you are left casting from fast moving water to slower so having a lot of line on the water will quickly result in drag etc. Tim called it up and down fishing, short cast with maybe a quick mend. We agreed and 8'3" rod was more appropriate than a 9" rod let alone a 10' rods that just allows the wind more opportunity to ""grab" your line. Additionally I have noticed anglers going side arm in an attempt to get under overhanging brush/trees, all the tricker with a long rod, bad angles, which diminishes accuracy.
So I got to thinking one day knowing we were heading out to a raging river and the winds would be up. I decided to try the RIO Outbound Short Floating Line on the DO S rod. Yes it's a streamer rod and very good at that but I'm not afraid to think out of the box. Thinking was he'll be choked up with the fighting butt (more accurate) and that line can handle wind, would load with little line out (short casts, skip the false casts). Since it's all happening fast the fact that it isn't a delicate presentation line wasn't a drawback at all as fish only have a split second to decide. I tried it first and laughed and it was so easy and even worked very well with large flies wind or no wind. This person also loves to drop the tip (unloads the cast) and with such a heavy forward line it helped get the leader straightened out more consistently. If needed I could still make (shoot) longer cast than were functional with that type of fishing. The challenged angler immediately said "wow" this is effortless, makes me look good. I suggested "better" might be a more accurate description.
I have been watching a friend struggle with run & gun fishing on the Yak, particularly at higher flows. Add in our often significant breezes just exacerbates the challenges let alone the need to put flies tight to the bank. Factor in your moving at a good clip with summer flows and you often only get one shot it comes down to "bring your A game". This person tends to make multiple false casts like it's required by law. On top that he tends to want to use his 10' lake/tube rod in spite of the fact in a drift boat you are standing on top of the water. I'll give him a break in that he has a short history with run & gun type of fishing, he does fine wading. Anyway my frustrations watching the struggle left me looking for some solutions.
Roughy a few decades ago I had a discussion with the late Tim Irish (local and first WA trout guide) about this type of fishing. We were of similar thinking in that basic physics dictate the shorter the rod the more easily one can make accurate casts. On top of that in full flows you run your boat close to the bank so distance is not required as fish are tight to the bank to avoid the fast moving water. So you are left casting from fast moving water to slower so having a lot of line on the water will quickly result in drag etc. Tim called it up and down fishing, short cast with maybe a quick mend. We agreed and 8'3" rod was more appropriate than a 9" rod let alone a 10' rods that just allows the wind more opportunity to ""grab" your line. Additionally I have noticed anglers going side arm in an attempt to get under overhanging brush/trees, all the tricker with a long rod, bad angles, which diminishes accuracy.
So I got to thinking one day knowing we were heading out to a raging river and the winds would be up. I decided to try the RIO Outbound Short Floating Line on the DO S rod. Yes it's a streamer rod and very good at that but I'm not afraid to think out of the box. Thinking was he'll be choked up with the fighting butt (more accurate) and that line can handle wind, would load with little line out (short casts, skip the false casts). Since it's all happening fast the fact that it isn't a delicate presentation line wasn't a drawback at all as fish only have a split second to decide. I tried it first and laughed and it was so easy and even worked very well with large flies wind or no wind. This person also loves to drop the tip (unloads the cast) and with such a heavy forward line it helped get the leader straightened out more consistently. If needed I could still make (shoot) longer cast than were functional with that type of fishing. The challenged angler immediately said "wow" this is effortless, makes me look good. I suggested "better" might be a more accurate description.