NFR Do You Recognize How Fortunate You/We Are?

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People in the US are very fortunate being able to live in the USA. People around the world want to live here - for good reason!

But do you understand how fortunate we actually are? IMHO - I think not!

My first exposure to the ' 'have vs. have nots' was back in the 60's when my dad and I were traveling to a special stream when I was living in Alabama. We were going through the country-side and noticed some of the 'cabins' had a wringer washer on the front porch and others did not. He explained to me it was a status to their neighbors that they could afford a wringer washer machine:

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It made huge impression on me and opened my eyes... Many parts of the USA are in great poverty, yet we do not acknowledge that since we are the richest country in the world. The parts of our country that are less fortunate than us have provided some of the best home-grown (USA) music ever. And yet they still exist, just hidden from our society ---> unfortunately!

Fast forward a couple of decades. When my wife and I decided to adopt our children, China was one of the few choices due to our age. Fortunately were were accepted to be able to do so. We traveled to China and spent 4 weeks touring before meeting our new daughter. We wanted to understand the country and the culture. We landed in Beijing and had a tour guide and driver for several days. On our last day there, the guide wanted to take us to an Olympic venue from prior times. We asked her to take us to where the 'common people' were and asked to meet some. She was shocked! Yet she accommodated us. We traveled to the outskirts of Beijing, tree lined streets with very high walls. Inside were communities of everyday people.

She found a woman willing to meet us. Her family lived in a 10x30 room. A family room, bath, dining, kitchen and bedroom. Very modest to say the least! We spent several hours talking with her through our guide. She provided lunch for us too... Obviously she could not afford it. She lived on the equivalent of $1,200 a year from the state (China). We talked to our guide and offered to help. NO - she was too proud and felt that us trying to understand where our daughter came from was far more important. As we talked to her more, the most important thing for her child was going to college. It could be life changing!

Sound familiar? Certainly does to me...

Many of us have traveled to exotic places, me included. Yet how many of us have ventured a couple of blocks or miles off the beaten path? That is where the real world exists. I encourage you to do just that!

It can be life-changing, to say the least!

RCF
 
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@RCF you are right on and it saddens me to see so many of our young Americans clueless about the real world. Your Alabama story has parallels to my life experience. My mother was one of eight kids who grew up in Central and North Alabama. Before she moved to SoCal in 1942 with a sister to work in the war factories, she experienced the building of dams on the Tennessee and the life of a steel mill worker thru her father’s and older brothers eyes. I experienced Alabama from the late 50s thru 60s as my parents would make an annual two week summer trip cross-country from SoCal to visit my mom’s family in Alabama. Those were the times that I learned that I had an uncle, aunt, grand parents or cousins behind every tree in Alabama and that Alabama was a bit different than the cozy SoCal suburban neighborhood I grew up in.

My wife, now of 54 years grew up sheltered in Tacoma, WA and had literally not been far from home for most of her life. In 1973 I was assigned to Maxwell AFB in Montgomery, AL and had the opportunity to visit with all those aunts, uncles and cousins on a regular basis. I warned the wife, you are going to see and hear things that you won’t like or believe about life in the South. Needless to say there are ample stories (not tellable on this forum) that shocked her and opened her eyes to the world outside Tacoma.

In 1980 we were on our way to the Philippines for a three year tour. As we touched down at Clark AB I told my wife you are about to experience images and smells you never experienced before. Having served in Vietnam in ‘69-70, I knew first hand how different life in SE Asia was. As she touched the tarmac, the reality that she was in a different place really hit her. After tours in England and Germany, we made one final overseas stop for a couple years in Istanbul. By this time we were seasoned outsiders not unaccustomed to different cultures, norms, politics, economies, poverty and wealth etc. But we were Americans and never appreciated our home country more than when we returned in 1991 for good.
 
People in the US are very fortunate being able to live in the USA. People around the world want to live here - for good reason!

But do you understand how fortunate we actually are? IMHO - I think not!

My first exposure to the ' 'have vs. have nots' was back in the 60's when my dad and I were traveling to a special stream when I was living in Alabama. We were going through the country-side and noticed some of the 'cabins' had a wringer washer on the front front porch and others did not. He explained to me it was a status to their neighbors that they could afford a wringer washer machine:

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It made huge impression on me and opened my eyes... Many parts of the USA are in great poverty, yet we do not acknowledge that since we are the richest country in the world. The parts of our country that are less fortunate than us have provided some of the best home-grown (USA) music ever. And yet they still exist, just hidden from our society ---> unfortunately!

Fast forward a couple of decades. When my wife and I decided to adopt our children, China was one of the few choices due to our age. Fortunately were were accepted to be able to do so. We traveled to China and spent 4 weeks touring before meeting our new daughter. We wanted to understand the country and the culture. We landed in Beijing and had a tour guide and driver for several days. On our last day there, the guide wanted to take us to an Olympic venue from prior times. We asked her to take us to where the 'common people' were and asked meet meet some. She was shocked! Yet she accommodated us. We traveled to the outskirts of Beijing, tree lined streets with very high walls. Inside were communities of everyday people.

She found a woman willing to meet us. Her family lived in a 10x30 room. A family room, bath, dining, kitchen and bedroom. Very modest to say the least! We spent several hours talking with her through our guide. She provided lunch for us too... Obviously she could not afford it. She lived on the equivalent of $1,200 a year from the state (China). We talked to our guide and offered to help. NO - she was too proud and felt that us trying to understand where our daughter came from was far more important. As we talked to her more, the most important thing for her child was going to college. It could be life changing!

Sound familiar? Certainly does to me...

Many of us have traveled to exotic places, me included. Yet how many of us have ventured a couple of blocks or miles off the beaten path? That is where the real world exists. I encourage you to do just that!

It can be life-changing, to say the least!

RCF
Yes the shocker is right around the corner. One way Americans learned how lucky they are was by just knowing who there neighbors were, I my case it was understanding my own heritage and history, my ex wife of 37 years and how she grew up. Fear of condemnation from others.
 
I guess I wasn't so poor after all! My mom had a wringer washer in the 1950s, and had an automatic Maytag before that decade was over. I thought of myself as growing up poor, but in reality, not dirt poor. More like unfinished wood floor poor. Our moonshiner neighbor Irish Malamphy told me I should go to college. I did, but more importantly I made a point of never being unemployed because being poor ain't fun. Which brings me to the point. For a kid who had no clue how to plan anything, let alone a successful life strategy, I sometimes blink and wonder how things turned out this well. It hasn't always been this way, but since the kids finished college, we want for absolutely nothing. We're not rich, just secure. It's impossible to beat that knowing that so many struggle.
 
My brother and I delivered the Columbian newspaper in the early to mid 60’s . Dad worked at the paper mill in Camas. The mill went through troubled times with occasional and extended strikes . Rick and i had 3 routes . Combined and about 175 customers. It helped us have food to eat. This happened a couple times. We got by.which reminds me that we were so fortunate and unionized labor was what made this possible. We cared for each other and were able to barter and share beyond the our own family and yard boundaries.
 
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I spent the first nine years of my life in Mexico, in a life of great privilege but never far from the poverty that was apparent to all. I’ll never forget riding in a car with diplomatic plates and seeing street urchins my age selling Chiclets on the street. Even at that age I wondered “there but for the grace of God….”.
Made a point to expose my children to other cultures and countries. We are very lucky to be Americans.
 
Powerful story, thanks for sharing it — experiences like that really put “fortune” into perspective. Do you think moments like these changed how you view everyday life in the U.S., or how you try to pass those values on to others?

Past experiences definitely have changed how I view everyday life. What I have learned for what is important to me, helps open my eyes through experiences I have had that I would not of envisioned if I did not seek out further knowledge. I do not judge others but rather try to understand more. I can not change/impose on others - just does not work and builds 'walls'. I prefer to show/lead by example and ask questions that may help reflection within others.
 
I think we need to start sending our kids into local humanitarian or overseas relief programs in lieu of college straight out of high school. If they were forced to deal with places like Haiti, Bangladesh, Bolivia, or Honduras, or many of the other places lacking our levels of comfort, I think our society would be a whole lot better off.

I grew up in the northern Appalachians. (yes Penna. Is part of that chain). We were considered fortunate, but not well off, income wise, by the rest of the country. I knew things were tight, but not how tight until years later when my parents and I had a long overdue discussion about income and budget and dad told me there had been times where we'd only had $25.00 in cash to go the month or however far they could stretch it.They sweated gas prices, grocery prices and everything else that it took to raise 4 kids.

That made me take a hard look at the princely sum of $368.00 (E2@1977) a month my army paycheck was putting in my pocket. Years later it was also one of the reasons I got into overseas relief efforts. The pay wasn't always great but at the end of the week, you could tell where u made a difference.
 
My wife and I took our honeymoon on South Andros Island, Bahamas ( don't ask me how I pulled that one off). The locals there are some of the nicest people I have ever met in my life. A lot of folks there have next to nothing, but they will invite you into their homes and share everything with you and make you feel welcome......a real eye opener.

We live in the land of excess and I believe you can only appreciate that when you travel abroad and experience other cultures.
 
I think we need to start sending our kids into local humanitarian or overseas relief programs in lieu of college straight out of high school. If they were forced to deal with places like Haiti, Bangladesh, Bolivia, or Honduras, or many of the other places lacking our levels of comfort, I think our society would be a whole lot better off.

I grew up in the northern Appalachians. (yes Penna. Is part of that chain). We were considered fortunate, but not well off, income wise, by the rest of the country. I knew things were tight, but not how tight until years later when my parents and I had a long overdue discussion about income and budget and dad told me there had been times where we'd only had $25.00 in cash to go the month or however far they could stretch it.They sweated gas prices, grocery prices and everything else that it took to raise 4 kids.

That made me take a hard look at the princely sum of $368.00 (E2@1977) a month my army paycheck was putting in my pocket. Years later it was also one of the reasons I got into overseas relief efforts. The pay wasn't always great but at the end of the week, you could tell where u made a difference.
$368?? i did 3 yrs, and know the pay was low, but could not tell u the exact amount. luckily got stationed in northern italy, 73-76. army was... the army. but i very much enjoyed europe.
we are on our 3rd trip to baja in march - have been very impressed with the local folks down there.
 
$368?? i did 3 yrs, and know the pay was low, but could not tell u the exact amount. luckily got stationed in northern italy, 73-76. army was... the army. but i very much enjoyed europe.
we are on our 3rd trip to baja in march - have been very impressed with the local folks down there.
Some place in all my stored records I still have all my 1st year LES.

I was real happy when Reagan and congress gave us a pay raise in 81. I got a whole 40.00 more a month.
 
Some place in all my stored records I still have all my 1st year LES.

I was real happy when Reagan and congress gave us a pay raise in 81. I got a whole 40.00 more a month.
So in today's money that's like $142.63. This year I got a $48 a month raise, $14 of which is because I chose a lessor insurance plan. This equals around $13.50 in 1981 money.

One thing I'm looking forward to is when I get taxed out of my home. I hope the wife isn't alive then because living in the RPOD probably not going to work for her.
 
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