Consolidating battery/electrical system

Evan B

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On my "smaller" boat I use for Columbia River fun - salmon, steelhead, carp, capr, etc... I have been running a dual-battery system as is customary on most boats: deep cycle for the electronics, starter battery for the main engine. Always made sense to me as I didn't want to risk running my main battery down with the electronics. But for the second year in a row, I had my deep cycle battery short out on me after having trouble charging while the motor ran.

My set up was to have the motor hooked up to the battery cutoff/selector switch on one circuit, then my electrical panel on the other circuit connected to the deep cycle. The main starter battery then connected to an ACR (charging relay) that would send charge to the deep cycle when the motor ran.

For whatever reason, I just could never get the deep cycle to reliably charge. I even swapped out the ACR unit last year thinking that was the problem, but late last year, kept running into the same issues. Then this spring when getting the boat ready, my deep cycle is shorted out and dead the same way it was last year.

More I thought about it, the less having a dedicated battery made sense to me. I'm really not running that much off of it on this little boat, especially since my Livescope system has become my primary fish finder and I have it running on a portable lithium battery setup I move between boats. So finally took both batteries out and replaced with a nice AGM dual purpose. But I am loving the simplicity so far. Much less stress about things charging, and zero drama with the wiring.

Weirdly enough, on my bigger ocean boat I run the same dual battery setup with same ACR, and have had exactly zero issues. So maybe my Suzuki 200hp is better at charging than my 60hp Suzuki? No idea. But I'm happy with the change. And zero chance I do that on the bigger boat methinks... Probably not wise to go offshore without backup power.

Not even sure what my mission was with creating this post, but I'm sure others have had similar experiences... or perhaps some want to share why going to one battery is a fools errand 😆

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It just started its season this weekend anchored up fishing for springers. It'll get after the carp and capr here shortly.
 
On boats freshwater boats I used to run (90hp+ outboards) the electronics were wired so the motor only charged the cranking battery, and there was a second battery for electronics. The second battery would run down through normal use each day and need to be charged at home.

Were you putting both batteries on a charger at your house in between uses? If the second battery was getting low and then sitting for a long period of time it can burn them out even if brand new.
 
On boats freshwater boats I used to run (90hp+ outboards) the electronics were wired so the motor only charged the cranking battery, and there was a second battery for electronics. The second battery would run down through normal use each day and need to be charged at home.

Were you putting both batteries on a charger at your house in between uses? If the second battery was getting low and then sitting for a long period of time it can burn them out even if brand new.
Well it was supposed to be getting charged by the motor via the ACR. But that may have been intermittent or something. I'm not quite sure. I wouldn't pay much attention to it.

Never did charge inbetween uses as it shouldn't have been necessary.
 
I used to run one deep cycle charged off the battery for starting and the electronics, and one separate battery for the bow mount trolling motor. I now run a deep cycle AGM for the starting battery, one 50Ah lithium for electronics, and one Group 27 AGM for the trolling motor, and an onboard 3 bank 5A NOCO charger, wired to one shore power plugin.

The trolling motor is now the weakest link, it'll run in my normal use about 2 days fishing before it is desperate for more juice....figure about 12 total hours.
 
I used to run one deep cycle charged off the battery for starting and the electronics, and one separate battery for the bow mount trolling motor. I now run a deep cycle AGM for the starting battery, one 50Ah lithium for electronics, and one Group 27 AGM for the trolling motor, and an onboard 3 bank 5A NOCO charger, wired to one shore power plugin.

The trolling motor is now the weakest link, it'll run in my normal use about 2 days fishing before it is desperate for more juice....figure about 12 total hours.
Yeah I was gonna say... trolling motor is the top one to go lithium on.
 
ever use a 12V clamp on ammeter to measure amps of the voltage on the feed to the ACR and then out of it to the problem battery?
 
ever use a 12V clamp on ammeter to measure amps of the voltage on the feed to the ACR and then out of it to the problem battery?
No but I probably should have. Haven't had issues on my other boat but may do a reading just for education.
 
Upon further reflection...this started happening when I got my bow mount. Not that the bow mount would be directly responsible, but it changed my habits.

Instead of trolling fall salmon on my main engine, I'd shut the main down and troll on my bow mount only. Hours at a time running my Garmin with no charging. Then I'd run the main for the few minutes I'd go between spots or back to the dock.

I suspect that could be an issue.
 
Upon further reflection...this started happening when I got my bow mount. Not that the bow mount would be directly responsible, but it changed my habits.

Instead of trolling fall salmon on my main engine, I'd shut the main down and troll on my bow mount only. Hours at a time running my Garmin with no charging. Then I'd run the main for the few minutes I'd go between spots or back to the dock.

I suspect that could be an issue.
likely just that..not enough run time for the OB alternator to juice the secondary battery back up
 
I was just thinking that the alternator in the little engine wasn't quite up to the task??? Perhaps you were not getting a good charge voltage on the deep cycle.
 
I was just thinking that the alternator in the little engine wasn't quite up to the task??? Perhaps you were not getting a good charge voltage on the deep cycle.
I mean, a 60hp isn't tiny. I think I just wasn't running it long enough after I started using my Minn Kota so much.
 
Upon further reflection...this started happening when I got my bow mount. Not that the bow mount would be directly responsible, but it changed my habits.

Instead of trolling fall salmon on my main engine, I'd shut the main down and troll on my bow mount only. Hours at a time running my Garmin with no charging. Then I'd run the main for the few minutes I'd go between spots or back to the dock.

I suspect that could be an issue.
Oh ya that helps explain what’s happening. Do you think you will alternate the big motor more to make sure the solo battery charges?
 
Oh ya that helps explain what’s happening. Do you think you will alternate the big motor more to make sure the solo battery charges?
I definitely think I'll be more mindful of it. I do have a charger as well so may just go to charging it when I get home to be sure.
 
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