College Football 2023

Porter2 said:
Yes it’s coming ….might take a 2/3 year period. Have no idea why this in italics Maybe they paid for it. Everything at big schools will be basically pro football. When walk on programs were eliminated or severely reduced to a few participants. Most invited of course. No real true walk ons. 😆 True spirit of
college football is gone. The true walk on that use to exist is done. It’s al $$$$$
Click to expand...
The bigger, better-funded schools with larger NIL budgets will entice the surprise players from smaller, poorer schools with smaller NIL budgets. And the bigger schools will dump some of their initial recruits that aren't performing (probably by cutting their NIL contracts); these players will transfer to schools with smaller budgets. If they have a great turn-around season, they will be picked up by another bigger, better funded school. As the coaches have proven for decades, football is a business and the college players now have leverage, transfer freedom, (and pay) that they never had before.
Imaging what Neon Deion could do with a bigger NIL budget...
Steve
 
Cabezon said:
The bigger, better-funded schools with larger NIL budgets will entice the surprise players from smaller, poorer schools with smaller NIL budgets. And the bigger schools will dump some of their initial recruits that aren't performing (probably by cutting their NIL contracts); these players will transfer to schools with smaller budgets. If they have a great turn-around season, they will be picked up by another bigger, better funded school. As the coaches have proven for decades, football is a business and the college players now have leverage, transfer freedom, (and pay) that they never had before.
Imaging what Neon Deion could do with a bigger NIL budget...
Steve
Click to expand...
But should this even be? It’s college football. Not pro ball. The question is and everyone will answer with dollars of course. College ball is built on student athletes. Are we done with this? I mean bring a guy in who can play for a year or two and at a buy and be gone . Are we building and promoting -contributing citizens or just looking for gridiron warriors for a few years. Do universities pride in making doctors, engineers, teachers, business people or just want a few ringers for Saturday afternoons?
 
Porter2 said:
But should this even be? It’s college football. Not pro ball. The question is and everyone will answer with dollars of course. College ball is built on student athletes. Are we done with this? I mean bring a guy in who can play for a year or two and at a buy and be gone . Are we building and promoting -contributing citizens or just looking for gridiron warriors for a few years. Do universities pride in making doctors, engineers, teachers, business people or just want a few ringers for Saturday afternoons?
Click to expand...
To an outsider / non-academic, it is easy to fall into the trap that a pre-eminent research university like UW is more focused on athletics. Sports is what is covered almost daily on the TV news and newspapers. And the head football coach ($4.2 million per year) and his top assistants (and the head basketball coach) earn more than the UW president ($800,000/yr) or the governor of the state of Washington ($190,000/yr).
But in reality athletics is a pimple in the overall focus of UW. For 2022, overall UW budget was $9.49 billion; the budget of the athletic department was about $115 million, 1.5% of the overall UW budget. Half of UW's annual budget is associated with its medical programs / hospitals (see this summary document). The second largest component of the university budget is research / research dollars (;)), about 18% of the total; UW has ranked at or very close to the top university in the U.S. in research grants. The UW does provide education for 60,000 undergraduates a year (as long as this doesn't get in the way of research funding...;)). It is hard to estimate exactly the contribution of the direct education portion because it is tied into overall administration costs too, but collectively this is about 18%.
So, if spending represents priorities, athletics is a very minor rounding error in the overall activity of the UW. They could spin off athletics, use Husky stadium to enlarge the hospital complex, and make more money...
One wonders when college sports will be explicitly converted into the minor leagues that they have become...
Steve
 
Cabezon said:
One wonders when college sports will be explicitly converted into the minor leagues that they have become...
Click to expand...
They have always been that. But now players get paid and have more freedom. Keeping them tied to colleges instead of a baseball like minor league gives these teams a rabid rooting fan base that the schools get to exploit for...money.

Honestly, if it was like baseball, who would rush out to see them play? Minor league teams don't fill stadiums and generate concessions like college football does.
 
_WW_ said:
They have always been that. But now players get paid and have more freedom. Keeping them tied to colleges instead of a baseball like minor league gives these teams a rabid rooting fan base that the schools get to exploit for...money.

Honestly, if it was like baseball, who would rush out to see them play? Minor league teams don't fill stadiums and generate concessions like college football does.
Click to expand...
You may have hit on something, that could possibly be the demise of college football…or at least, from a merchandising aspect. People not only “attach” to the schools, but also players. Their player jumps around…they may not follow.

Personally, I love and support minor league baseball…specifically, wooden bat short season. It’s baseball in a “purist” sense… watching the possible future stars of the Major League.
 
In the case of some schools, the athletic departments get very little money from the schools themselves.
They are their own standalone entities with their own budgets. If may have changed, but that is how the UW used to be.
People would bitch about how much a coach was being paid, but if the money isn’t coming out of the schools budget then what is the issue?
Having a good football program and tv contracts are a big part of athletic budgets. Football pays the bills. Donations from the fan base as well and having whale boosters helps. Schools and states will back their athletic departments in the case of major facilities expansions through bonds, taxes etc.
SF
 
Watch out dawgs........Beavers are now ranked no. 10 Yes it also occurs to me that the Ducks better watch out too. But first a trip to the desert. Go Ducks !
 
Oregon State is set to host Washington on Saturday at 7:30 PM ET airing on ABC. So us on the Pacific coast, that means 4:30pm.
 
Go Beavs !!!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top