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Recent gas price increases have led me to rethink use of the truck as a camping unit this season. In order to greatly decrease my fuel consumption I have built out my Subaru Outback into a mini camper suitable for a few days out. It uses the 25'' x 75'' mattress out of the truck and the same electric refrigerator. I custom built frames for both the bed and fridge that take up a minimum of room and are lightweight. A cabinet with an opening top and slideout drawer will handle all of my clothes and some kitchen items. Use will be much the same as backpacking but with far more comfort plus electricity. There is room for water and a stove plus fishing gear but not much more.

I am thinking about the possibility of eating freeze dried meals on the short trips to make life a little more simple and certainly more compact. So what are your recommendations for a food source? And what should I be wary of? I am not looking for cheapo but it doesn't have to be faux gourmet either.

What's out there that I should be looking for?
 
Korr has a product that's very yummy. It's essentially a pasta and cheese. Drop in some Lil smokies... yum. Easy and doesn't use much room.. don't forget to check the dollar store cheap doesn't mean bad..
 
I like most Mountain House meals and some Backpacker’s Pantry. Mountain House claims to be the only company that cooks from-scratch meals and then dehydrates them, vs. just combining all ready dehydrated ingredients.

Alex McD swears by PackIt Gourmet but I haven’t tried them.

A few years ago, I gave away a bunch of Alpine Aire packets as even when I was tired and hungry on a backpacking trip, I couldn’t choke them down. They used to be good years ago or maybe the newer brands are just better.
 
I wouldn't eat Mountain OutHouse if you paid me, unless they have gotten significantly better since my expeditioning days more than a decade ago.

Before my wife's goat hunt last fall, we went though a bunch of different freeze-dried meals to help her figure out the ones that a) got her the most nutritional bonus per buck, and b) didn't taste like someone forgot to put the actual food in the package. The two brands that rated the highest for both of us were "Heather's Choice" and "Good to Go".

It might behoove you to hit up Amazon and get a few packets from a few different providers, as well as hit up the local grocery and see what they have. I was always a big fan of carrying butter and a few packets of Knorr "Alfredo sides" then using snow or whatever unfrozen water we could find, but unless you are in "alpine mode" and cutting the handle off yer toothbrush to save weight, there's no point in subjecting yourself to that kind of diet.
 
Recent gas price increases have led me to rethink use of the truck as a camping unit this season. In order to greatly decrease my fuel consumption I have built out my Subaru Outback into a mini camper suitable for a few days out. It uses the 25'' x 75'' mattress out of the truck and the same electric refrigerator. I custom built frames for both the bed and fridge that take up a minimum of room and are lightweight. A cabinet with an opening top and slideout drawer will handle all of my clothes and some kitchen items. Use will be much the same as backpacking but with far more comfort plus electricity. There is room for water and a stove plus fishing gear but not much more.

I am thinking about the possibility of eating freeze dried meals on the short trips to make life a little more simple and certainly more compact. So what are your recommendations for a food source? And what should I be wary of? I am not looking for cheapo but it doesn't have to be faux gourmet either.

What's out there that I should be looking for?
I’ve always enjoyed squirrels.
 
I dehydrate and vacuum seal my own meals. I have a 9 tray Excalibur dehydrator which lets me control both temperature and time. Cook whatever you want and dehydrate it yourself....soups, pasta, rice dishes, even biscuits and gravy or eggs! That way you get the spice level you want, the quantity you want, etc. It does require some thought though as you need to prep the food for dehydration, which means chop everything up small. And of course, meals with a high fat content don't dehydrate well. But, I've found that with the right preparation, vacuum sealing, and storage, I can keep dehydrated meals on hand for years. Simply pull them out, add hot water, wait 20 minutes and you're good to go. Helps to have some of the dehydrator cookbooks.
 
My go to backpacking meals. FWIW I am not a gram weenie.

Instant Potatoes

Precooked/packaged Instant Rice as in open, squeeze bag into pan, warm up.

Mix both of the above with say Sirloin Steak Soup, or precooked chicken, burger, steak strips.

Fast, easy, one pan dishes that pack a lot of calories and flavor.

Bring a container or ziplock of Johnnys Salt or your favorite spices.

Have a blast with your new setup.
 
Packit Gourmet...

But if I'm car camping, I just make everything in advance, freeze and eat as needed.
A stove and a grill and good to go.
Car camping isn't actually camping of course.
 
Recent gas price increases have led me to rethink use of the truck as a camping unit this season. In order to greatly decrease my fuel consumption I have built out my Subaru Outback into a mini camper suitable for a few days out. It uses the 25'' x 75'' mattress out of the truck and the same electric refrigerator. I custom built frames for both the bed and fridge that take up a minimum of room and are lightweight. A cabinet with an opening top and slideout drawer will handle all of my clothes and some kitchen items. Use will be much the same as backpacking but with far more comfort plus electricity. There is room for water and a stove plus fishing gear but not much more.

I am thinking about the possibility of eating freeze dried meals on the short trips to make life a little more simple and certainly more compact. So what are your recommendations for a food source? And what should I be wary of? I am not looking for cheapo but it doesn't have to be faux gourmet either.

What's out there that I should be looking for?

@iveofione

Hi I've, I have an Outback as well and would be interested in seeing some pictures of what you've done to your Outback. Would you be able to post some pictures of it? Thanks
 
Why would you go freeze dried if weight isn’t an issue? Frozen soups and chili double as cooler ice. Fajitas or some of those freezer aisle dinners are a one pot deal. Shit, you can seat a steak in a pan then throw a can of corn and beans on it to simmer and be good.

You can cook some good stuff on a one burner stove.
 
@iveofione

Hi I've, I have an Outback as well and would be interested in seeing some pictures of what you've done to your Outback. Would you be able to post some pictures of it? Thanks

Check out my post: 'Mini casa taking shape'. There are a few pictures but they don't begin to show how difficult it was to get the refrigerator support level and strong and end up with a bed platform that was less than 3'' high and dead level. The bed platform is hinged in the middle to provide for easy storage when removed. I removed the rear seat bottoms to make more room but left the seat backs in place. I had to build a support that held up the passenger side seat back to carry the weight of the bed. Other spacers had to be built to distribute the weight but it all came out almost perfect with just enough room to add a slide out table at the end of the bed.

I have extensive backpacking experience and I see the Outback as just a hard sided tent with a really good bed and a real refrigerator. Some people are living in Outbacks but I think 3 days and 2 nights will be the optimum outing in this rig.

If you need more pics let me know but it would be far easier to send them on a cell phone than post them here.
 
@iveofione I have always loved Mountain House. Have been given samples of other freeze dried foods over the years. I would stay away from Wise. I didn't care for it and smaller serving size.

Now, hate to say it, I may be switching from MH. I'm still experimenting, but am really liking Peak freeze dried meals. Their biscuits and gravy have real full sized biscuits in it. Going to go through the ones I normally eat and do a side by side comparison.
 
Check out my post: 'Mini casa taking shape'. There are a few pictures but they don't begin to show how difficult it was to get the refrigerator support level and strong and end up with a bed platform that was less than 3'' high and dead level. The bed platform is hinged in the middle to provide for easy storage when removed. I removed the rear seat bottoms to make more room but left the seat backs in place. I had to build a support that held up the passenger side seat back to carry the weight of the bed. Other spacers had to be built to distribute the weight but it all came out almost perfect with just enough room to add a slide out table at the end of the bed.

I have extensive backpacking experience and I see the Outback as just a hard sided tent with a really good bed and a real refrigerator. Some people are living in Outbacks but I think 3 days and 2 nights will be the optimum outing in this rig.

If you need more pics let me know but it would be far easier to send them on a cell phone than post them here.

I took a look at the pictures and have to say, you've got some serious skills Ive! Wow! I was just thinking about putting an air mattress in the back of mine but what you've done is astounding! Thanks so much for sharing. It's definitely got me thinking. Please post after your trip. I'd love to hear your thoughts after you have a chance to put it to use. Thank you
 
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I don't mind the Mountain House meals - in moderation. I'll usually alternate with cans of stew or soup. Both the cans and freeze dried packages make good containers for coffee grounds. I also take plenty of finger food, trail mix, cashews, jerky, etc.
I tried something on my recent nine day trip. I left the bread and took tortillas instead. Rolled up sandwich fixings in them. Rolled up fried eggs and salsa in them. Had them warm with butter. I think this will be my go to standard from now on.
 
I don't mind the Mountain House meals - in moderation. I'll usually alternate with cans of stew or soup. Both the cans and freeze dried packages make good containers for coffee grounds. I also take plenty of finger food, trail mix, cashews, jerky, etc.
I tried something on my recent nine day trip. I left the bread and took tortillas instead. Rolled up sandwich fixings in them. Rolled up fried eggs and salsa in them. Had them warm with butter. I think this will be my go to standard from now on.
Tortillas make good sense, they have a much longer shelf life than bread. I bake all of my own bread so it has no preservatives in it. By the 4th day it is pretty much done. And it takes up a lot of space when camping plus it crushes easily. But damn!-is it ever good when it's fresh!
 
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Here's a couple backpacking meals that I like as alternatives to Mountain House freeze dried:

Beans & Rice with Fritos and cheddar cheese 675 cal
Instant refried beans 2.0 oz 112 cal/oz
Instant rice 1.5 103
Cheese 1.0 110
Fritos 1.0 160
Taco seasoning 0.2 93
Spices
Water 10 – 12 oz

Total 5.7

When solo, I do one of two things. If I plan to have this meal several times on the same trip (or the same leg of a thru-hike), I have a pre-spiced snack bag of beans and rice for each meal, and my supply of Fritos and cheese is kept together but preferably somehow delineated so that I don’t steal tomorrow’s calories for tonight’s dinner, e.g. divide the block of cheese equally but keep it all together. If I plan to have this meal just once, I will use up to three bags (beans/rice, cheese, Fritos) but I’ve also combined everything into one bag before. It works out okay since the ingredients are fairly easy to separate in the field.

For many reasons, I make all of my meals soupy. This simplifies some the cooking:
  1. Add at least 12 oz of water to my stove pot.
  2. Pour in beans, rice, taco seasoning, and any other spices at anytime.
  3. Cook, ideally to a simmer for about 60 seconds, stirring to avoid boil-over.
  4. Cut cheese into dice-sized pieces and add to meal.
  5. Add Fritos just before consumption. If added too early, they will soften.
For perfect at-home consistency, use 10 oz (300 ml) of water. To prevent burning, do not add beans, rice, and taco seasoning until water is boiling.

Thai peanut sauce & noodles

Recommended meal weight: 5.7 oz. Total calories: 810 Caloric density: 142 calories/ounce

Ramen noodles 3.0 oz 127 cal/oz
Peanuts 0.7 154
Peanut butter 1.1 175
Olive oil 0.4 240
Soy sauce 0.2 30
Honey 0.3 88
Garlic 0.05 60
Spices – salt, pepper, red pepper
Water, 1 ¼ cup or more, up to 2

Total 5.75

Ramen noodles have their own packaging, and I normally leave them that way. The exception is a short solo trip, when at home I may crush up the noodles and re-bag them with the raisins or crushed peanuts. One package of Ramen per meal per person.

The raisins or crushed peanuts are bagged separately and divided in the field.

The sauce should be made at home. Mix all of the listed ingredients (minus the noodles and peanuts) together. I recommend making big batches with a kitchen mixer, unless you want an arm workout.

Carry the sauce into the field in a 4- or 8-oz Nalgene HDPE Container or a 16- or 32-oz Nalgene Wide-Mouth Bottle. Even if you only need one serving, do not attempt to use a 2-oz bottle to save a few grams over the 4-oz or 8-oz size — you will struggle to pour the sauce into it and to clean it later.

Cooking instructions​

  1. If you prefer smaller noodle pieces to long, stringy ones, crush the noodles before opening the package. Be careful — the package can rip open.
  2. Remove the MSG-filled “flavor” packet.
  3. Bring to a boil at least 1.25 cups (10 oz, 300ml) of water. I prefer soupy meals, however, so I normally use at least 2 cups.
  4. Add the Ramen and the peanuts, turn off the stove or let it burn out, and let the noodles sit for 5 minutes.
  5. Add the sauce.
If you use more than the minimum 1.25 cups of water, everything can be added at the very beginning, since the extra water will prevent scorching the ingredients.

Another meal I tried last year uses one of those packages of Idaho instant mashed potatoes as the base. One envelope is too much for me, so I split it in two and put each half into a zip lock sandwich bag into which I add some of those steak strips that come in a bag at Costco. I cut the steak strips into smaller chunks so that they rehydrate quicker, since the potatoes are ready in a minute after adding boiling water. You can also throw in some dehydrated carrots, leeks, onion, and whatever else strikes your fancy. It worked well for me last summer on the trail, very light, low bulk, and plenty filling.
 
And when motorcycling, we always have tortillas, a can of refried beans, cheese, peppers, and onions. Instant lunch. And if we can manage a tomato, so much the better.
Up in the Okanagan in summer, we stop at fruit stands for apricots, cherries, apples and whatever else they've grown.
 
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