Balanced vs Standard Leech Under Indicators

Is a balanced pattern fished under an indicator more effective than a standard tie?

  • 1. No appreciable difference.

    Votes: 11 36.7%
  • 2. 20% more effective.

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • 3. 50% more effective.

    Votes: 8 26.7%
  • 4. So more effective I won't use a standard tie unless its all I have.

    Votes: 9 30.0%

  • Total voters
    30
For me the question is about the painted beads ?
Should i be using those bright painted beads ?
Are they worth the money & time to add them to my already way overstuffed fly boxes ?
 
For me the question is about the painted beads ?
Should i be using those bright painted beads ?
Are they worth the money & time to add them to my already way overstuffed fly boxes ?
I like the color hot spot. But a little fluorescent ice dubbing works too. I have good results using a gold or copper bead with hot orange or yellow ice dubbing just behind it.
 

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For me the question is about the painted beads ?
Should i be using those bright painted beads ?
Are they worth the money & time to add them to my already way overstuffed fly boxes ?
My belief is trout get in moods especially in early early spring when a hot head can be just killer and unbeatable. It's not all the time though.

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That's the Canadian Black Simiseal, my favorite. The others are different blacks (w/ red or green) I have. The chartreuse ones also have got a lot of attention from the crappie in the past. The blacks used to look better but the fish seem to keep eating them. Should tie some more before they fill the reservoir and I get to try the new boat ramp.
Tom, I've always been kind of baffled by the crappie in that local reservoir. That place gets drawn down to a mudhole, then freezes over in winter, and then spring runoff gets diverted out of the creek to fill it back up. I can't figure out where those things come from. Certainly not further up the creek, yet they are there every year.
 
@ifsteve - A couple years ago, I had a day at ---------- Lake, early March. The inflow that year was impressive and the trout were thick in the shoal formed by the creek. A simple black Simiseal balanced leech was deadly, even after most of it was torn apart. Would a jig have worked as well. Probably.

New shirts (at least the few I buy) don't come with straight pins anymore, I ran out of pins. @Billy and his Gloater have, at least to me, demonstrated that jig patterns work well (he put on a mega-clinic in front of me three weeks ago). My balanced leech box doesn't get the use it used to, my jig box gets the nod more often.


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These are going to get soaked tomorrow.
 
In my “humble” opinion, balanced/jigged patterns fish better as point flies under indicators than non balanced patterns. Both will work but balanced/jigged will provide a better horizontal profile when sitting static, thus more likely mimicking what they eat.

I don’t balance/jig my top pattern because like @troutpocket I tie the tippet for my point fly into the eye of my top fly.
 
Tom, I've always been kind of baffled by the crappie in that local reservoir. That place gets drawn down to a mudhole, then freezes over in winter, and then spring runoff gets diverted out of the creek to fill it back up. I can't figure out where those things come from. Certainly not further up the creek, yet they are there every year.
They hang out on the back side in the SE basin. Not very deep this spring as in many/most spots a kick will stir up the bottom, but their there. Needed GPS to mark brush piles for later today. And I think the new boat ramp will be worse, looks like more camber and curve than before but it's not open yet.
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I nearly always have either a true balanced leech or, more likely lately, a jigged leech as one of 2 flies under a bobber. Even when the mids are hot.
One aspect that I'm not sure I've seen in this great thread yet is the jig hooks lose way less fish than balanced hooks. Not sure why, but a good jig hook stuck in the snout ain't coming out. I think something with the balanced hooks somehow makes for either less sure hookups or an actual prybar effect on the hook. Anyone else notice this?

I still have about 20 balanced leeches, mostly bruised or reddish brown) in my box, but all new ones purchased or tied are on jig hooks. Love the Ahrex and Hanak jig hooks. Tough as nails and sharp.
 
I nearly always have either a true balanced leech or, more likely lately, a jigged leech as one of 2 flies under a bobber. Even when the mids are hot.
One aspect that I'm not sure I've seen in this great thread yet is the jig hooks lose way less fish than balanced hooks. Not sure why, but a good jig hook stuck in the snout ain't coming out. I think something with the balanced hooks somehow makes for either less sure hookups or an actual prybar effect on the hook. Anyone else notice this?

I still have about 20 balanced leeches, mostly bruised or reddish brown) in my box, but all new ones purchased or tied are on jig hooks. Love the Ahrex and Hanak jig hooks. Tough as nails and sharp.
Once I first saw a jig hook, they became my hooks for balanced leeches. The Ahrex are great hooks.
 
In my “humble” opinion, balanced/jigged patterns fish better as point flies under indicators than non balanced patterns. Both will work but balanced/jigged will provide a better horizontal profile when sitting static, thus more likely mimicking what they eat.

I don’t balance/jig my top pattern because like @troutpocket I tie the tippet for my point fly into the eye of my top fly.
Ira - do you use a pin with a bead on your jig to balance it? Or do you have another trick up your Iracator sleeve? The offset beads @Paul_ posted intrigue me (says the guy with too many fly boxes and too many flies).
 
Billy's jigs work well....I still have a few. But only 37.9%
 
Apparent from some of the smart ass comments I am not really welcome here. Later.
What did I miss? Don't really see anything too outrageous....
 
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