Any Panhandlers here?

SurfnFish said:
you chance getting handed some slaps from da local kine
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Yep. You get slaps. I lived in HI for some years and found a respectful attitude and being friendly went a long way. Made some great friends and rarely ran into people who wanted to scrap..and that is despite surfing some of the more localized spots.

Almost 100% of the time the biggest jerks were not the locals anyway…they were the amped up visitors who brought bad attitudes.
 
Stayed in a rental on Cocollala.
Nice lake.
But be aware, the train noise is CRAZY...tracks follow East shore.
There ARE bass. 😉
 
Good call Hem i had forgotten that - pretty noisy. Fair amount of train traffic in that region (including Sandpoint area, Priest River, etc.).

Cocolalla has pike too.

Pend o Reille river (my ipad spell check hates those words -finally gave up trying to correct) is an underrated bass/warm water species fishery as well.
 
Bugmeister said:
Yep. You get slaps. I lived in HI for some years and found a respectful attitude and being friendly went a long way. Made some great friends and rarely ran into people who wanted to scrap..and that is despite surfing some of the more localized spots.

Almost 100% of the time the biggest jerks were not the locals anyway…they were the amped up visitors who brought bad attitudes.
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winter trips to Kaui during the 70's, surf Haneli, Middles or Kalihiwai, drive to Majors if a boomer came in that would wrap the island. After that a dozen or so trips to the North Shore during the 80's and 90's, Sunset my fave, so many other waves.
Four month work gig on the island in 09', scored a cottage at Kailua beach park, surfed the south shore and east side after work and on weekends, a highlight some hella fun Crouching Lion.
Never a hassle during any of those trips, made some friends, shared some grinds.
Just need to show respect, and stroke hard over that ledge when it's your turn.
 
SurfnFish said:
you chance getting handed some slaps from da local kine
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CRACKS! And some deserve them.

Here is a story that illustrates what has been going on....a long-serving, older state senator welcomed a new staff member from the mainland (Seattle) shortly before he retired a year ago. He said nice things about her and asked her to stand up, and he walked over and gave her the standard aloha greeting for a new staffer, which is a hug, a beautiful lei around the neck and a kiss on the cheek (for females). This has been going on forever and shows warmth and aloha to the newcomer.

Take a wild guess what happened? She filed a sexual harassment suit against him for unwanted touching. Her suit claimed she was humiliated and forced into an uncomfortable situation. This was her first morning, she hadn't actually even started any duties yet. And they had never met before, so her suit was focused entirely on his aloha greeting on her first day.

His defense stated that another female staffer had told her in advance what was going to happen so she wouldn't be surprised. She never said a word. When the dust settled, protocol had to be changed and the aloha greeting is no longer allowed, to avoid future lawsuits.

The women on his staff were, and are, very upset about this change, they saw it as a loss of their culture due to outside influence. And I gotta be blunt, when I meet a female for the first time here now, I no longer give that greeting. It's not worth the risk. My HOA atmosphere is very different because of this, at the meetings and gatherings. And the women are far more upset about it than the men. We're just protecting ourselves but they see it as a loss of one of the great things about local culture that attracted them to Hawai'i in the first place. And they'll say things to we guys, like "watch out for that one, she's from Seattle/Portland/San Francisco/Wherever and she's looking for trouble". It's sorta funny but also sad.
 
SurfnFish said:
Never a hassle during any of those trips, made some friends, shared some grinds.
Just need to show respect, and stroke hard over that ledge when it's your turn.
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Exactly! I've never had one bad exchange with anyone while fishing from shore on Oahu, BI, Kauai, Maui or Molokai. Throw netters, spear fishermen, bait fishermen....it didn't matter. They'd be curious about my fly rods and we'd talk story and learn from each other. Always a fun convo. The only time I ever had words with anyone was with a mouthy haole transplant snorkel-tour shuttle driver who told me the beach I was about to fish was off limits (which was complete bullshit, he just wanted it for his snorkel clients who were hundreds of yards away). I ignored him and kept walking and he kept mouthing off. So I tactfully let him know that his continued oratory would result in a most unsatisfactory result if he persisted.
 
We moved from Spokane to C’da in July of 2021. I would do it over again every time. I wish I had done it 20 years ago so we could have raised our kids in this community....for every whacko here there are 20 awesome people. My son did do his senior year at C'da HS and he absolutely LOVED the school. I have met some amazing people in the short time I have been here. I can't say enough good things about the community and I have never felt more a part of community either.

The area is definitely more conservative than other parts of the country but it's not as obnoxious as outsider's make it out to be. The Trump zealots were definitely present but I haven't had any interactions with any of them. I hunt a LOT and my interactions with folks in the field have all been positive so far...even when I had my WA plates.
 
My wife and I sold our place in Seattle and our place in Bellingham last year. We moved to a home we built in Dover Bay Idaho. It has been the best move ever. I flyfished over 100 days last year. We are fortunate because we live on the water. We are also cross country skiers and the trail is minutes away. We feel like we won the lottery. I would be happy to share more info and always willing to connect with locals who want to set a fly. FAF7D571-3A81-4C44-8D86-D189D405456D.jpeg
 
Mingo said:
CRACKS! And some deserve them.

Here is a story that illustrates what has been going on....a long-serving, older state senator welcomed a new staff member from the mainland (Seattle) shortly before he retired a year ago. He said nice things about her and asked her to stand up, and he walked over and gave her the standard aloha greeting for a new staffer, which is a hug, a beautiful lei around the neck and a kiss on the cheek (for females). This has been going on forever and shows warmth and aloha to the newcomer.

Take a wild guess what happened? She filed a sexual harassment suit against him for unwanted touching. Her suit claimed she was humiliated and forced into an uncomfortable situation. This was her first morning, she hadn't actually even started any duties yet. And they had never met before, so her suit was focused entirely on his aloha greeting on her first day.

His defense stated that another female staffer had told her in advance what was going to happen so she wouldn't be surprised. She never said a word. When the dust settled, protocol had to be changed and the aloha greeting is no longer allowed, to avoid future lawsuits.

The women on his staff were, and are, very upset about this change, they saw it as a loss of their culture due to outside influence. And I gotta be blunt, when I meet a female for the first time here now, I no longer give that greeting. It's not worth the risk. My HOA atmosphere is very different because of this, at the meetings and gatherings. And the women are far more upset about it than the men. We're just protecting ourselves but they see it as a loss of one of the great things about local culture that attracted them to Hawai'i in the first place. And they'll say things to we guys, like "watch out for that one, she's from Seattle/Portland/San Francisco/Wherever and she's looking for trouble". It's sorta funny but also sad.
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on the last day of my 2009 gig (acting faciities director for Kaiser working out of Moanalua med center), the gals on the team sent me off with lei's and big hugs.
Our country could do with a whole lot more aloha and a whole lot less social b.s....on both sides.
 
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