NFR AI = More power required

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SurfnFish

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Having managed data center build outs during the 2000's at a time when every new one seemed to have double the electrical requirements of the previous build, the power consumption of the new generations of data center's hosting massive AI arrays dwarfs those earlier centers. So who should pay for that huge increase in delivery infrastructure?
 
Some of the projects I'm seeing lately make the "big" data centers I worked on in the late 90's / 2000's seem puny. There also seems to be a similar mad rush to build and occupy - it'll be interesting to see how the utilities keep up, or maybe don't in some areas, and like you said, who foots the bill.
 
Fairly sure many of us are old enough to remember the Three Mile incident, which was then followed two weeks As later by the movie 'The China Syndrome', which helped the public understand just how close we had come to a true disaster...interested in reading what the retrofit of Three Mile consists of.
There's a reason why China is spending billions on researching the energy grail of fusion power...
 
Lets bring back WHOOPS Satsop. Then buld more data centers there. Lots of room and the local area needs a boost in their economy...
 
SurfnFish said:
Fairly sure many of us are old enough to remember the Three Mile incident, which was then followed two weeks As later by the movie 'The China Syndrome', which helped the public understand just how close we had come to a true disaster...interested in reading what the retrofit of Three Mile consists of.
There's a reason why China is spending billions on researching the energy grail of fusion power...
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Significant and numerous design changes were mandated and made to every US nuclear plant following the TMI accident. There were also changes to operational and training aspects. The TMI second unit was shutdown many years later for economic- not safety reasons.
The China Syndrome movie bore little connection to any reality and spurred unneeded fear not education.
 
These days in the TECH SCENE you need to pay big bucks to get into an internet-based HIGH POWER AI solution. There is a growing school of thought that the higher the power the bigger the deal. If you want to be making big deals you have to get into a HIGH POWER AI SOLUTION.
 
RichS said:
Significant and numerous design changes were mandated and made to every US nuclear plant following the TMI accident. There were also changes to operational and training aspects. The TMI second unit was shutdown many years later for economic- not safety reasons.
The China Syndrome movie bore little connection to any reality and spurred unneeded fear not education.
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"Significant and numerous design changes were mandated and made to every US nuclear plant following the TMI accident."..and for good reason

Dr. Frank von Hippel is a senior research physicist at the Center for Environmental Studies at Princeton University. He was a member of the panels formed by the American Physical Society and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to examine the problems of reactor safety and to assess the validity of the Rasmussen study.

“The film gives an impression that there is a good deal less defense‐in depth [at a nuclear plant] than there actually is,” Dr. von Hippel said. “But there are simple and subtle things that can happen that might cause a meltdown.” He noted that the Rasmussen report, for example, identified one longstanding situation in which, workmen inadvertently set two out of several hundred valves in a certain way, a major accident would have resulted. “This is an example of a serious design defect that has been identified and now hopefully dealt with,” the physicist said. “But is also is an example of where the defense‐in‐depth theory doesn't always work.”
 
I do not see how we can meet power demands without nuclear. But look at the Fukushima incident a few years back. The best sushi tuna got a good dose to give to humans who eat the fish and the backround radiation as far away as california increased. But it was all called "safe!"
 
fatbillybob said:
I do not see how we can meet power demands without nuclear. But look at the Fukushima incident a few years back. The best sushi tuna got a good dose to give to humans who eat the fish and the backround radiation as far away as california increased. But it was all called "safe!"
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Not necessary if you have an open mind.

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