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I’ve been watching the Julio/umpire drama since almost the beginning of the season. The kid is getting screwed by what can only be called some of shittiest umpiring I’ve ever seen. Angel Hernandez would be proud of these guys. He may have been one.
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kerrys said:
I’ve been watching the Julio/umpire drama since almost the beginning of the season. The kid is getting screwed by what can only be called some of shittiest umpiring I’ve ever seen. Angel Hernandez would be proud of these guys. He may have been one.
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Been following this as well, he is getting jobbed. He just needs to stay patient though, he will only fail if he starts swinging for those pitches - I don't think this trend will continue for a whole lot longer. Lotta upside with this kid, not too worried about him.

cheers
 
Canuck from Kansas said:
Been following this as well, he is getting jobbed. He just needs to stay patient though, he will only fail if he starts swinging for those pitches - I don't think this trend will continue for a whole lot longer. Lotta upside with this kid, not too worried about him.

cheers
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Julio has handled this better than probably any other rookie playing. The kid has been cool. This isn’t just about a rookie getting screwed over by the umpires. This is what calling balls and strikes is in the mlb. A bunch of mainly old blind white guys trying to keep up with athletes like Julio. They can’t. The kid has more knowledge of what the strike zone is than these old wrinkled has been. Time for the mlb to hire qualified umpires and tighten up the strike zone. No more it caught the black.
 
kerrys said:
Julio has handled this better than probably any other rookie playing. The kid has been cool. This isn’t just about a rookie getting screwed over by the umpires. This is what calling balls and strikes is in the mlb. A bunch of mainly old blind white guys trying to keep up with athletes like Julio. They can’t. The kid has more knowledge of what the strike zone is than these old wrinkled has been. Time for the mlb to hire qualified umpires and tighten up the strike zone. No more it caught the black.
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Let CGI and AI call the balls n strikes… 😳😳😳
 
cedarslug said:
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It has all MLB games for that day, and you can rewatch earlier games from that day. Go Ms
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Buffstream (dot) io is my go to for live sports. Has nearly everything. I find all MLB games, home and away feeds. Does have some annoying popups/redirects. Close them once and then the video plays.
 
FinLuver said:
Let CGI and AI call the balls n strikes… 😳😳😳
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I’m not sure this is the answer. The umpires seem worse now than in the past but I don’t know that they are. Maybe the umpires have always been shitty at calling pitches. What I see now that I didn’t in the past is middle age and older guys trying to keep up with 21 year old premier athletes like Julio Rodriguez and they are failing. Some of the umps look like an overfed goose waddling down the foul line trying to make the call on a foul ball. The athletes deserve better.
 
We love to shit on umpires; I wonder how many have actually tried it. I umped for Little League many years ago, believe me, it's a lot harder than it looks, and it's an absolutely thankless task. Having said that, we have the technology to assist umps in being more consistent (look at tennis and the technology to determine if a ball is out) - it should be used, but keep the human umps in the game.

cheers
 
Canuck from Kansas said:
We love to shit on umpires; I wonder how many have actually tried it. I umped for Little League many years ago, believe me, it's a lot harder than it looks, and it's an absolutely thankless task. Having said that, we have the technology to assist umps in being more consistent (look at tennis and the technology to determine if a ball is out) - it should be used, but keep the human umps in the game.

cheers
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Yep...and soccer too.
 
I’ve umped a lot of ball. It can be difficult especially if you’re not consistent.
Like everything else some are better than others. What stands in the way- IMO- is their ego
 
Canuck from Kansas said:
We love to shit on umpires; I wonder how many have actually tried it. I umped for Little League many years ago, believe me, it's a lot harder than it looks, and it's an absolutely thankless task. Having said that, we have the technology to assist umps in being more consistent (look at tennis and the technology to determine if a ball is out) - it should be used, but keep the human umps in the game.

cheers
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Isn't yelling about and at umpires an intrinsic part of the game...like consuming overpriced beers and tube steaks of questionable age and origin? 😀
 
If you've ever umpired a kids game, you've listened to some jackass blowhard parent too lazy to volunteer themselves run their piehole about your umpiring job...
Worst part of any volunteer effort is having to listen to those who don't volunteer, tell you how to be a better volunteer.
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Back in the day of my youth, 13 or 14 years of age. I used to ump little league Baseball. Never had to put up with parents giving you a bad time. The parents never showed up for games. It was just done in fun and I enjoyed it. What was fun was playing football in the rain on a grass field. Many a time when I came home from a game my mother would have to just throw my clothes away. Mud stained and grass stained clothes that never seemed to get clean no matter how many times it was washed.

I had a blast as a kid. Just can't see to get hyped up over things now a days.
 
That’s funny OMJ. I remember playing little league. Parents never showed up. Players, coaches, umps.
Very fond memories
 
Dr. Magill said:
That’s funny OMJ. I remember playing little league. Parents never showed up. Players, coaches, umps.
Very fond memories
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Where I grew up they had a city wide summer league for the kids. It was broke up by age and I don’t remember exactly what the groups were. The youngest group was called the ‘sandlot’ league. Kids would sign up from all over town (pop. about 10-12,000). Teams were formed based on where the kids lived. A few grownups would do most of the organizing, scheduling, and usually a grownup would do the umpiring. We the kids playing would bring the gear, bats, balls, gloves, catcher equipment and other than the grownup umpiring we ran the game. Not many parents would show up. The games were played during the week during the day so most parents were working. My dad would show up every now and then. He was a real estate broker and could make a game. He was a big baseball fan and I remember him saying our little league games were much better than any major league game he had been to. This was in the sixties.
 
kerrys said:
Where I grew up they had a city wide summer league for the kids. It was broke up by age and I don’t remember exactly what the groups were. The youngest group was called the ‘sandlot’ league. Kids would sign up from all over town (pop. about 10-12,000). Teams were formed based on where the kids lived. A few grownups would do most of the organizing, scheduling, and usually a grownup would do the umpiring. We the kids playing would bring the gear, bats, balls, gloves, catcher equipment and other than the grownup umpiring we ran the game. Not many parents would show up. The games were played during the week during the day so most parents were working. My dad would show up every now and then. He was a real estate broker and could make a game. He was a big baseball fan and I remember him saying our little league games were much better than any major league game he had been to. This was in the sixties.
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Great times Kerry
 
I've never been a big fan of the idea of computers calling balls and strikes, but I'm at the point where I feel pitchers have gotten so good, and pitching so specialized, that a consistent strike zone is just too important to the batters to ignore. With everything else a batter has to worry about at the plate, defending a large and ever changing strike zone added to that just doesn't seem right.

I dont really "blame" the umps per se, I just feel that pitching has just gotten so damn good that it's unfair to expect these guys to be flawless. The problem is that flawless is damn near what is needed in order for hitters to succeed.
 
Umps have never been flawless, I can remember back in 1951 wondering why there wasn't some electric device that defined the strike zone that was more dependable than an obese umpire. Now with an umpire's union it is virtually impossible to get rid of a bad umpire and Angel Hernandez is Exhibit A. He has been known to call pitches strikes that were over 6'' off the plate and has been regarded as the worst of the worst for years. Yet after his disastrous performance on national TV a few days ago he was awarded a grade of 96! As Vizinni would say in "Princess Bride"--"Inconceivable!"

The fat-assed, arrogant and ill tempered blowhard Cowboy Joe West finally retired leaving Hernandez as the most prominent justification for electronic balls and strikes. Other bad decisions by umpires can often be reversed by replay but balls and strikes have remained inviolate. A waddling 60 year old umpire has no place behind the plate judging players in their prime with far better eyesight. Watching a couple of games today I saw 2 guys struck out on called strikes when only one pitch crossed the plate. On another occasion a guy walked on 4 pitches when 2 of them were clearly over the plate. It is hard for players to deal with that shit, they would just like to have a level playing field. In basketball the ball has to go through the hoop, in football it has to cross the goal and in hockey the puck goes into the net, soccer the same.

In baseball some umps have a high strike zone, some a low strike zone, some give the pitcher the outside corner of the plate while others don't even give credit for a pitch that clearly has part of the plate. That is just bullshit, we have the technology to pluck material from an asteroid several million miles out in space, we can sure as hell tell when a baseball crosses the plate 60'6'' away.
 
Headed to tonight's Mariners game against Tampa Bay . Early evening game because, Florida. At least the roof will be closed.
 
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