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Plus it’s meth. Opiates are a problem but meth is the real scourge IMO.
Indeed. There's plenty of solid medical science documenting permanent neurological damage (associated with severe behavioral problems) in chronic methamphetamine users.

If you spend time along the more urban stretches of the Spokane River (or the downtown core) you may often encounter individuals displaying some truly disturbing and aggressive behavior.

Certainly there are no easy simplistic solutions to this ubiquitous and multifaceted problem. Sad situation all around.
 
Mental illness is just that, and it permeates the 'permanent', not situational homeless. Hallucinations, intense paranoia non-functional in normal social settings. Such folks will do anything to try and suppress their pain and confuson, starting with alcohol.
Endless studies have linked alcoholics and depression, which tens of millions self-treat because of either the social stigma of seeing mental health specialist or the lack of insurance to do so. And whereas some manage to live their lives as alcoholics, keeping a job, likely not a marriage, liver failure and heart issues await. Have lost several friends who were functional alcoholics, two had their own businesses, one a multi-milionaire, none made it past age 65, all died of liver disease.
Drugs. The influx of crack and meth have destroyed lives in monthes. It's users become feral, mindless thieves who will do anything for the next hit. Outpatient programs rarely work, incarceration first, rehab later the only way to dry them out.
Fetanyl is the most dangerous drug ever invented, cops have died from just unknowingy handling a package during vehicle searches. The Mexican cartels are flooding our country with it, and it's criminal that the current administration has not declared a war on it, destroying the labs, giving life sentences to those importing and distributing.
And the homeless problem is badly exacerbated by the illegal immigration crisis on the south border. This influx of millions of llegal immigrants, requring housing, medical care food and education, offering little other than a manual labor pool, severely drains local and federal resources that could otherwise be used to assist those willing to enroll in new start programs that require full participation and sobriety, prioritizing single moms and families.
In the end, the answer to all of our questions is money. And the problem will always remain of who is controlling the spending of our country's capitol, and on what.
 
Interesting observation... a few months ago I was getting the cash out of my bottle drop account (Oregon) and there was a homeless looking lady in front of me. So I look over her shoulder as she's getting her cash, she has $6,900 in her bottle drop account.
 
Mental illness is just that, and it permeates the 'permanent', not situational homeless. Hallucinations, intense paranoia non-functional in normal social settings. Such folks will do anything to try and suppress their pain and confuson, starting with alcohol.
Endless studies have linked alcoholics and depression, which tens of millions self-treat because of either the social stigma of seeing mental health specialist or the lack of insurance to do so. And whereas some manage to live their lives as alcoholics, keeping a job, likely not a marriage, liver failure and heart issues await. Have lost several friends who were functional alcoholics, two had their own businesses, one a multi-milionaire, none made it past age 65, all died of liver disease.
Drugs. The influx of crack and meth have destroyed lives in monthes. It's users become feral, mindless thieves who will do anything for the next hit. Outpatient programs rarely work, incarceration first, rehab later the only way to dry them out.
Fetanyl is the most dangerous drug ever invented, cops have died from just unknowingy handling a package during vehicle searches. The Mexican cartels are flooding our country with it, and it's criminal that the current administration has not declared a war on it, destroying the labs, giving life sentences to those importing and distributing.
And the homeless problem is badly exacerbated by the illegal immigration crisis on the south border. This influx of millions of llegal immigrants, requring housing, medical care food and education, offering little other than a manual labor pool, severely drains local and federal resources that could otherwise be used to assist those willing to enroll in new start programs that require full participation and sobriety, prioritizing single moms and families.
In the end, the answer to all of our questions is money. And the problem will always remain of who is controlling the spending of our country's capitol, and on what.
We'll articulated!
 
If only we knew ahead of time that drugs and alcohol were addictive and could wreck a life. Oh well, I guess hindsight is 20/20.
 
If only we knew ahead of time that drugs and alcohol were addictive and could wreck a life. Oh well, I guess hindsight is 20/20.

For my generation this isn’t sarcastic at all. We had D.A.R.E and that program basically taught kids that all drugs are equally bad. Like weed (even though your parents probably smoke it), is equally bad to meth or black tar. I remember this program wreaking havoc on young kids who discovered their parents were evil drug addicts (pot heads) or tried weed and realized it was no big deal so moved on to something very bad.

D.A.R.E. made weed a gateway drug, it wasn’t the other way around. That program was unbelievably bad for the youth and is is good example of why honest and real information is so important. Kids are extremely smart, don’t fuck with them, it ruins their belief in society. Don’t be idealistic, be realistic, real is actually scary and actually might work.
 
For my generation this isn’t sarcastic at all. We had D.A.R.E and that program basically taught kids that all drugs are equally bad. Like weed (even though your parents probably smoke it), is equally bad to meth or black tar. I remember this program wreaking havoc on young kids who discovered their parents were evil drug addicts (pot heads) or tried weed and realized it was no big deal so moved on to something very bad.
And don't forget the fact that DARE taught you drugs were coming from some scary 1970's looking "sketchy" dudes on the street corner. Not one of your friends saying "hey, we're gonna do a few lines, you want some?"
 
For my generation this isn’t sarcastic at all. We had D.A.R.E and that program basically taught kids that all drugs are equally bad. Like weed (even though your parents probably smoke it), is equally bad to meth or black tar. I remember this program wreaking havoc on young kids who discovered their parents were evil drug addicts (pot heads) or tried weed and realized it was no big deal so moved on to something very bad.

D.A.R.E. made weed a gateway drug, it wasn’t the other way around. That program was unbelievably bad for the youth and is is good example of why honest and real information is so important. Kids are extremely smart, don’t fuck with them, it ruins their belief in society. Don’t be idealistic, be realistic, real is actually scary and actually might work.

I'm a product of DARE as well. This is why you can't bullshit kids and why parents shouldn't rely on the government to indoctrinate their kids. Let's not make accountability a concept of the past. Let's make accountability cool again and hip.

But seriously kids, turn in your parents.

Count me among the kids who don't trust bullshit and lost belief in society.
 
And don't forget the fact that DARE taught you drugs were coming from some scary 1970's looking "sketchy" dudes on the street corner. Not one of your friends saying "hey, we're gonna do a few lines, you want some?"

That's not true. I always raised my hand to role play that guy. "Cmon Josh, everybody is doing it. It makes you feel cool. You wanna be cool right?"
 
I have yet to ever have anyone say that to me in real life.

Maybe they assumed I was too far from cool already.

"Just do some and talk to her Josh. You'll be so smooth and cool she won't know what hit her. Your charms and smoothness will just permeate the playground air."
 
And don't forget the fact that DARE taught you drugs were coming from some scary 1970's looking "sketchy" dudes on the street corner. Not one of your friends saying "hey, we're gonna do a few lines, you want some?"

For sure! The first time I got stoned it was with a girl I had a crush on and wanted to date. We went for a walk by a creek and smoked weed out of a Sprite can. She had stolen it from her older brother. We kissed and it is very romantic and memorable to me still 25 years later.
 
Maybe it's time we teach coping and addiction classes in high school with hands on requirements for volunteer time in the community centers to help drive the points home.

I don't know just throwing out ideas. It seems more useful for today's day and age then a lot of what is taught.
 
For sure! The first time I got stoned it was with a girl I had a crush on and wanted to date. We went for a walk by a creek and smoked weed out of a Sprite can. She had stolen it from her older brother. We kissed and it is very romantic and memorable to me still 25 years later.

So my town.

Maybe it's time we teach coping and addiction classes in high school with hands on requirements for volunteer time in the community centers to help drive the points home.

I don't know just throwing out ideas. It seems more useful for today's day and age then a lot of what is taught.

I think that's a great idea. I think kids should see the real world business end of where roads can lead and hear it from the horse's mouth. I would bet former and current addicts would speak at these events. I knew drugs were bad cause I grew up in a drug town. Well a drinking town with a drug problem anyway. I saw it firsthand. I didn't even drink in highschool because I saw the destruction it caused.
 
Isolation, loneliness, fear, anxiety, depression, then alcohol, then drugs, then decline, resulting in poverty, destitution, a life unlived and early anonymous death.


Two different things will guide you to the river banks. The first path is to feel the awe and joy of the gift of life every single day. Hiking, camping, hunting and fishing is such a positive way for many of us to experience the best life has to offer. These positive experiences build resilience and renews good energy.
The second path is shame and self-loathing comforted only by the next fix of negativity, excuse making, finger pointing, drink, injection, bad decision. The riverside drug camp is a place to quietly die of shame. I salute those who try to help these folks to see the goodness of life again, but ultimately they have to choose to live again. In my opinion spirituality is an overlooked solution.
 
I went through DARE in the early 90s, and don't remember hearing about Meth until adulthood. I remember very well how well they beat it in to our heads that marijuana was quite possibly the worst thing on the planet, though.
 
I went through DARE in the early 90s, and don't remember hearing about Meth until adulthood. I remember very well how well they beat it in to our heads that marijuana was quite possibly the worst thing on the planet, though.

My school was so hard kids stole the fake weed out of that suitcase the officer brought got visual aid. I think some coke went missing too. Officer DARE was a basket case over it. He was so pissed. He got really angry when I suggested calling a detective or one of those badass cops from the vice squad. He never came back. We got a new guy with the same busted into case of fake drugs.
 
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