Stilliguamish system closure 10/9

If I recall correctly, wasn’t the chinook encounter number something like just one recently?
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At a recent WDFW commission meeting (last year), I asked WDFW to provide any evidence that these closures have a positive impact. Of course they haven’t published anything in that regard. I encourage everyone to do the same in future WDFW meetings
 
jeradjames said:
I went to a FF club meeting this year regarding Deer Creek steelhead and the region bio said they didn't have the staffing budget to effectively monitor the S rivers. That could be the main issue we are looking at.
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Where does all the money go? I don’t understand why it’s so expensive to open a river to CnR or fly fishing only.
 
HauntedByWaters said:
Where does all the money go? I don’t understand why it’s so expensive to open a river to CnR or fly fishing only.
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Exactly. Our state agencies now struggle to conduct basic responsibilities despite hauling in record revenues. WDFW's budget is being sliced to go into social services, but even so the S rivers are not that hard to monitor.
 
HauntedByWaters said:
Where does all the money go? I don’t understand why it’s so expensive to open a river to CnR or fly fishing only.
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Where to go with this one....
For starters, 10 of the top 12 highest paid state employees are psychiatrists. That's excluding UW and WSU positions.
That's 10 phsychiatrists who are netting an average of over $500K per year.

Our highest paid officials are dominated by social services, a sector that is inherently designed to eliminate itself, but yet keeps expanding and absorbing more and more of our money.

But yeah, we can't find the money to fund basic shit like fishing.

Salaries

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I spent 2 mornings fishing the stilly in the last week. One day above I -5 and one below. I saw 2 coho jack size below none above. Never saw anyone checking catch. Did anyone see anyone checking.
 
There was a warden parked in his truck on the opener at Haller. I dropped by there to see how many people would be salmon fishing on a weekday within sight of the water that was closed to fly only barbless trout and steelhead fishing because apparently people targeted salmon. I counted about 30 people from the foot bridge down the gravel bar and it looked like most were twitching jigs and I saw some bobbers drifting too. I asked the warden how fishing was and he said he’d checked 3 coho in the last hour. I said right on, when’s the NF opening again? He didn’t know.

I could see the NF from where I stood. Not far up that confluence I should have been able to go catch a cutthroat pretty quickly on a dry fly and would have been no trouble to salmon. Unsurprised kings were caught by people fishing salmon lures in salmon water. That’s kinda how it happens. Unsurprised it’s closed now.

It’s all bullshit.
 
Non tribal recreational fishing gets stabbed in the back again and again. No surprise. Heck they dredge up any and every excuse to close the Snohomish system now. Oh but tribal netting is ok even for chum.
I can see this same garbage coming to the Skagit real soon. And check the chinook returns to the Wallace hatchery that we never had any opportunity to fish for.
 
Long_Rod_Silvers said:
Serious question: why does the wallace hatchery exist at this point?
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I've been feeling that way about a lot of salmon hatcheries for some time now. State tax dollars (yours and mine) are spent to raise hatchery salmon to mainly be caught in Canada, with most fish that return to Washington caught in non-treaty and treaty commercial fisheries. I want an audit that identifies how much it costs for each hatchery to put one Chinook or coho into the recreational creel. I think the cost is astronomical. Ergo, why fund WDFW salmon hatcheries?
 
Salmo_g said:
I've been feeling that way about a lot of salmon hatcheries for some time now. State tax dollars (yours and mine) are spent to raise hatchery salmon to mainly be caught in Canada, with most fish that return to Washington caught in non-treaty and treaty commercial fisheries. I want an audit that identifies how much it costs for each hatchery to put one Chinook or coho into the recreational creel. I think the cost is astronomical. Ergo, why fund WDFW salmon hatcheries?
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In the new Washington state politik salmon hatcheries feed starving orcas and supply commercial and tribal fisheries.
 
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