Skagit, or sorta' Skagit head

Salmo_g

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I need something along the lines of a 450 gr Skagit head that is 30 feet long or so. Ideally it would be a "beer can" with no taper. So the less taper, the better. I cast a 510 gr Air Flo Rage on another rod, and it handled tips quite well. I have a few Scandi heads in the 450 to low 500 gr weights, but the front taper is too fine to cast a 15' Rio Versa Tip without me putting a huge effort into it.

I looked for a 450 gr Rage, but apparently they have been discontinued, so no luck there. Is there something in the market place that I'm just not seeing, or do I need to look at my collection of longer, heavier heads and cut one down to 450 grains?
 
Salmo_g said:
I need something along the lines of a 450 gr Skagit head that is 30 feet long or so. Ideally it would be a "beer can" with no taper. So the less taper, the better. I cast a 510 gr Air Flo Rage on another rod, and it handled tips quite well. I have a few Scandi heads in the 450 to low 500 gr weights, but the front taper is too fine to cast a 15' Rio Versa Tip without me putting a huge effort into it.

I looked for a 450 gr Rage, but apparently they have been discontinued, so no luck there. Is there something in the market place that I'm just not seeing, or do I need to look at my collection of longer, heavier heads and cut one down to 450 grains?
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Long skagit head can only mean one thing - you've got a long rod. ;)

-Long rod
 
That translates to 12 wt level line. If you’re interested in diy and looping it yourself, I can search my stash of colored plastic spaghetti for a suitable chunk of 15 gr/ft?
 
I could be wrong but 450 gr is about a 7wt spey and 15ft tip seems too long that's why it won't cast. Tips should be 10 footers. You need more like 575gr 14ft 8wt rod to move a 15ft tip. A rage is a hybrid head. A skagit head will move more mass than the rage.
 
fatbillybob said:
I could be wrong but 450 gr is about a 7wt spey and 15ft tip seems too long that's why it won't cast. Tips should be 10 footers. You need more like 575gr 14ft 8wt rod to move a 15ft tip. A rage is a hybrid head. A skagit head will move more mass than the rage.
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I still have old stock Rio Skagit integrated lines in 450 gr that I've been casting 8 wt 15' Rio Versa tips with for years on a 7 wt 13' 4" CND Solstice. A 10 wt 15' tip would be an awkward challenge for the 450 gr Skagit, but not 8 wt.

Agreed that a traditional non-tapered "beer can" Skagit will move more mass than the Rage, but aside from old stock Skagits, every line I come across any more is tapered. The redeeming quality of the Rage is that it isn't tapered to as fine an end as other heads I've tried and looked at. A borrowed 510 gr Rage, at 30' long, cast 15' tips just fine on my 7136 Z-Axis. Unfortunately, I broke the tip section week before last, and it will take a while to get it replaced.
 
Salmo_g said:
I still have old stock Rio Skagit integrated lines in 450 gr that I've been casting 8 wt 15' Rio Versa tips with for years on a 7 wt 13' 4" CND Solstice. A 10 wt 15' tip would be an awkward challenge for the 450 gr Skagit, but not 8 wt.

Agreed that a traditional non-tapered "beer can" Skagit will move more mass than the Rage, but aside from old stock Skagits, every line I come across any more is tapered. The redeeming quality of the Rage is that it isn't tapered to as fine an end as other heads I've tried and looked at. A borrowed 510 gr Rage, at 30' long, cast 15' tips just fine on my 7136 Z-Axis. Unfortunately, I broke the tip section week before last, and it will take a while to get it replaced.
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Check the core 30 (Nextcast). Slightly longer skagit head that will turnover tips and cast good.

www.nextcastproducts.com

CORE 30

CORE 30 is a non-traditional long skagit head. Beside handling super heavy sinktip upto T14 and weighted flies, It provide a smooth control and casting . It performs well with all casting style including single spey with ease. Size (grains) FF & F1 Models Length (feet) Suggested Sinktip 450...
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