Dry Falls Fishing Dried Up?
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No idea on weight, 6 lbs?
Many years ago....ugly piggy
Many years ago....ugly piggy
Dorsal too. I always thought trips got the same pen damage to their fins
Could be. I don’t recall any trips being planted at that size on the westside, only brooders. Most are dark but can brighten up some after being in a lake awhile.
It seemed like on the westside, they’d plant trips, announce the plants and most would get fished out before they got to the size they were promoted to achieve.
I guess another question would be how does one determine if a rainbow they caught is a triploid rather than a carryover diploid?
SF
I believe this is a triploid Pennask from BC. The oversized eyes are the giveaway. I retained it, thus the fatal damage 
Why it's the number of ploids of course!
When the department went on their triploid stocking binge I did fish those lakes a lot. I actually got the stocking reports and made a point of fishing the triploid lakes.
If my memory serves me well, they were generally bigger in girth, and I remember them being almost always a silver color typical of small trout, rather than colored up like the bigger diploids. They were also much stronger than a diploid fish. I could tell when I hooked a triploid rather than a diploid even before I saw the fish.
I never did get a chance to fish for triploids other than rainbows. I know the department thought about using triploid brookies to reduce the brookie populations in high elevation lakes, but I don't know if they ever did it. I would like to catch a triploid tiger.
In lakes, without channels for natural spawing, and there are very few if any in the Columbia basin the diploids typically top out at 21 inches.
Anything over 21 with a silver color was a triploid in my eyes.
I think triploids got a bad rap. I enjoyed fishing for them. I think they make sense in mixed species lakes that have trout. Coffeepot, Lenice, and others come to mind.
If my memory serves me well, they were generally bigger in girth, and I remember them being almost always a silver color typical of small trout, rather than colored up like the bigger diploids. They were also much stronger than a diploid fish. I could tell when I hooked a triploid rather than a diploid even before I saw the fish.
I never did get a chance to fish for triploids other than rainbows. I know the department thought about using triploid brookies to reduce the brookie populations in high elevation lakes, but I don't know if they ever did it. I would like to catch a triploid tiger.
In lakes, without channels for natural spawing, and there are very few if any in the Columbia basin the diploids typically top out at 21 inches.
Anything over 21 with a silver color was a triploid in my eyes.
I think triploids got a bad rap. I enjoyed fishing for them. I think they make sense in mixed species lakes that have trout. Coffeepot, Lenice, and others come to mind.
dflett68
Steelhead
i've never been clear on whether some, all, or none of the troutlodge fish at RF are/were triploids. i had assumed so for a long time, but i've seen and caught so many there that have none of the grotesque disproportions and features of most confirmed triploids i've seen. anyway, i landed a fish from one of the ponds a long time ago that was just a touch over 34". it was flawless, no sign of having spent any time in a tank or of having been caught before. no funky proportions or weird features i associate with triploids. it was magnificent and fought like a tarpon - unlike nearly every other really large fish i've hooked in the creek. i didn't weigh it, but the formula, if i did it right and had the right measurements, i think came out around 17lbs. just had a blackberry for a camera and my son snapped a shot. the second pic was a fish caught below the lower hatchery area during a period where there were often large pods of really big fish that behaved and looked very differently from normal RF fish - one of the regulars on the old forum suggested they were lake fish that moved up from moses lake. i don't know if that's true, but i had the impression they were triploids because of how stocky they were. this one was about 28" i think.
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Why it's the number of ploids of course!
Looking back and at your fish, I think the triploid program may have changed as the years went by. I recall a basin lake that we fished that put fish out to 26”. It seemed early in the program they planted much larger fish. That’s just my memory anyway.
We still caught plenty of big carryover diploids prior to the triploids being planted. The biggest our group got was an 8 lber my buddy got out of one of the seep lakes.
Here on the west side it seemed to morph into jumbos but not really big fish. As I mentioned they’d announce the plants and many would get harvested quickly before they had a chance to show off what a triploid could become.
I had fish at RF jizz milt on my waders and females drop eggs. Not my proudest moment.
Maybe that was prior to triploids being introduced.
SF
At the same time? Impressive!I had fish at RF jizz milt on my waders and females drop eggs. Not my proudest moment.
Honest answer, I don't think there is any way to visually determine the difference.
I reckon you have now earned the nickname "Redd."
We anglers often are quick to latch onto anything that promises to produce "larger" trout. Here in Western Washington in the 1970s/early 1980s it was the "Donaldson rainbow" and more recently it has been surplus hatchery brood stock, surplus hatchery steelhead and the current rage "triploids". All the above typically provide a short-lived opportunity at larger fish. For many anglers those opportunities scratch that big fish itch.
Historically, under proper conditions even western Washington lakes had the potential to produce some truly exceptional trout though not at the frequency that today's anglers expect or demand. Over decades have seen a number of fish greater than 5# trout (rainbow, browns, westslope and coastal cutthroat as well as brook trout) come from lowland lakes, beaver ponds and alpine lakes.
Curt
Historically, under proper conditions even western Washington lakes had the potential to produce some truly exceptional trout though not at the frequency that today's anglers expect or demand. Over decades have seen a number of fish greater than 5# trout (rainbow, browns, westslope and coastal cutthroat as well as brook trout) come from lowland lakes, beaver ponds and alpine lakes.
Curt