AI - spot AI

Dustin Chromers said:
I thought the cop/ice video was real. What's more dangerous, believing nothing, or believing something fake is real?
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Personally, I don't know, so I asked Google's Gemini model. It had a lot to say but concluded with this:

Conclusion
* Short Term: It is worse to believe AI is Real, because it causes immediate financial loss, violence, and ruined reputations.
* Long Term: It is worse to believe Real is AI, because it destroys the shared reality required for democracy and justice to function.
 
cody- said:
Personally, I don't know, so I asked Google's Gemini model. It had a lot to say but concluded with this:

Conclusion
* Short Term: It is worse to believe AI is Real, because it causes immediate financial loss, violence, and ruined reputations.
* Long Term: It is worse to believe Real is AI, because it destroys the shared reality required for democracy and justice to function.
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You can make people believe about anything if you put in some work. We are manipulated daily by social media, media, advertising, other people etc. All this new technology does is make it easiee. People will continue to act against their best interest, idolize bad people, and strive to emulate them. The zenith of human evolution is behind us. The so called top minds are now thinking about going post human. A literal upload of consciousness. What kind of chimera bullshit is that? What's the point? Immortality? If you can't be human there is no point in my small mind. But by all means let's put out trust in big tech, surely they will look out for us.

Mark my words in that this problem of manipulating the populous will be more impactful and important than climate change, population density, energy production etc. It will be the pivotal issue that effects quality of life and distrust in institutions to the point of coup. It's the largest threat as a society we face and it's been happening for longer than most realize.
 
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Adapting to machines, technology and now an autonomous AI hasn't exactly been all that great for society by some measures.

'One could say that technological progress can be looked at negatively for its role in destruction of small human communities and the rise of inhospitable cities. One could also contend that this relentless technological progress will not dissipate on its own, because individual technological advancements are seen as good despite the sum effects of this progress, and technological growth is beyond rational human control (i.e., autonomous).' Technological advances are bordering on the point for which they exist only to further their next advance, with little questioning of the merits of that new advanced technology, other than to set up the next (costly) advancement. They've almost ceased to serve human needs at this juncture, mostly serving the technology itself, and with each new tech furthering humans adaption to machines, with few thoughts of having machines adapting to humans.

Soon, AI will be making those types of new technology decisions in the best interest of... AI.

Throw in the financialization of all major industries (including healthcare), the commodification of everything, and voila...here we are.

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Dustin Chromers said:
You can make people believe about anything if you put in some work. We are manipulated daily by social media, media, advertising, other people etc. All this new technology does is make it easiee. People will continue to act against their best interest, idolize bad people, and strive to emulate them. The zenith of human evolution is behind us. The so called top minds are now thinking about going post human. A literal upload of consciousness. What kind of chimera bullshit is that? What's the point? Immortality? If you can't be human there is no point in my small mind. But by all means let's put out trust in big tech, surely they will look out for us.

Mark my worst in that this problem of manipulating the populous will be more impactful and important than climate change, population density, energy production etc. It will be the pivotal issue that effects quality of life and distrust in institutions to the point of coup. It's the largest threat as a society we face and it's been happening for longer than most realize.
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I'll die before the AI apocalypse. I knew there would be a benefit to old age.
 
_WW_ said:
I'll die before the AI apocalypse. I knew there would be a benefit to old age.
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If you're living now you are experiencing the negative effects of the irresponsible unethical use of this technology. We are only in the opening innings though.
 
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In a world where machine learning failed to serve the population, one man forsaw the inevitable and moved to Montana.
 
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One thing to look at is the background information in these short clips, there's usually something off. For the first video, look at the three people in the far background walking on the street and the guy in the back basically levitates forward at the beginning.
It is scary though and I'm sure it's only going to get better.
 
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When that lady ate the apple the snake talked her into eating...

All downhill after that.

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I’m so conditioned by my company’s immersive phishing tests that Im skeptical of anything that hits my inbox. Wonder if something similar can be done for this?

The Butlerians may be onto something here
 
Dustin Chromers said:
If you're living now you are experiencing the negative effects of the irresponsible unethical use of this technology. We are only in the opening innings though.
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So I ran your reply through AI analytics. AI says not to worry, my dementia will protect me as I cankle towards my death.
 
Asymmetrical software warfare is likely the most dangerous threat of AI.
A harbinger of this is the current ability of criminals and rogue actors like North Korea to hijack a hospital or university data system and lock it down, demanding millions to release them back to the owners. This happens far more often than the public is aware of.
With the greatly enhanced power of AI comes the ability to seize the systems of control towers, dams, water/gas/oil pipelines, shipping ports, etc, and do so in clusters, effectively paralyzing major infrastructure.
Literally every data system in the world that is not air-gapped (literally no connection internet connection of any kind) will become susceptible to these seize and deny attacks. The only counter to this will be AI guardians employing equal level software tools to repel these attacks.
When I built my first data center for VeraSign, one of it's functions was to house the computer tools to guard the firewalls of Fortune 500 companies and entities such as the Wall Street Stock Exchange (other, for the techies, was to house PKI for online storefronts, and one of the TLD roots for .com). The stakes for these firewall protection contracts were immense, VeraSign's penalty for any loss to the Exchange uptime alone due to hacking was $10,000,000 per minute.
Central to the data center was a large security room featuring tiered console seating and a massive video wall that displayed ongoing 'combat' between hacking/repelling activity on those guarded firewalls. This room operated 24/7
with at least 16 highly skilled security software personnel. On the video wall one could see the attacks being repelled in real time through bar graphs and such.
When I completed the data center in 2001, the center and it's 'mirrored' sister I built on the east coast the following year were working hundreds of firewall intrusion attempts a day. When I left the company in 2006 it was up to thousands of attempts a day, and these attacks had morphed from primarily lower to mid level hacks to much more sophisticated attempts, some able to employ brute force computing which will pale compared to what AI can bring to bear when matched with the most sophisticated attack tools.
And so it is inevitable that rogue actors/criminals will gain access to AI systems equipped with top tier penetration tools and go after high value targets. And until AI guardians become ubiquitous defending those attacks, it will be a target rich environment with real life consequences for us dependent on the attacked infrastructure..
 
So AI on AI computer warfare, combined with actual physical warfare run by AI.

This all sounds just ducky...
 
SurfnFish said:
And when did we reach this zenith?
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Not that far back in my opinion. A couple decades give or take ago. Basically the last generation to completely grow up without smart phones witnessed the peak of human advancement and knowledge without having to look it up. So maybe the 90s and early 2ks.

My studies indicate an exponential median increase in rogue stupidity as a function of time. Interestingly enough I've noted the same exponential increase in confidence of said stupidity as well. So not only is stupid on the rise but so is righteous conviction in stupid ideas.
 
1998 was the peak.
 
Dustin Chromers said:
My studies indicate an exponential median increase in rogue stupidity as a function of time. Interestingly enough I've noted the same exponential increase in confidence of said stupidity as well. So not only is stupid on the rise but so is righteous conviction in stupid ideas.
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Pretty harsh coming from someone who insists on fishing with a space age reel that doesn't make any noise.
 
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