Why in the world does WA still have paper-only fishing licenses?

Even if you don’t plan to keep a fish?
Does this river have species of fish in it that don’t require a catch card to retain? If so, how would they determine what species you are fishing for?
SF
Here in Orygun we have to pay a Columbia River endorsement to fish any river system that drains into the Columbia if we want to fish for Steelhead/Salmon, regardless of whether or not we plan on keeping any.
 
So my experience was a bit interesting. First off, I have been fishing this river for at least 20 years and never seen a WA warden on it. I drove up river to fish for the day and saw one of my favorite runs was empty so I pulled over and parked to fish it. As I got out of the truck I realized my license was still attached to my waders at camp and I was wet wading this particular morning. I literally thought to myself, "I'll be alright, I've never seen a warden out here". As I was nearly finished in the run and getting to the juicy boulder water, I see a warden drive by, stop, and come back. I thought you have got to be kidding. When he got out I told him "this is f'n classic, the one time I forget it, you show up". Anyway, I had my hunting license in the truck which showed I had a fishing license so he gave me a pass. But he warned me that I must have my catch card on my person while fishing. Two days later I saw him again in another spot at a take out and he asked for my license again, even though this time I wasn't fishing and was simply shuttling a friend's rig. I reminded him that he had previously checked me. He didn't care and I thought that was weird, but he ended up giving several people at that time tickets for not having their catch cards. So whether you have digital copies of your license or your actual license, you need to have your actual catch card on you (at least if you are fishing where recordable fish reside).

Now THAT is just plain silly. I haven't kept a fish in 5 years, why do I need a catch card to fish CnR? If I have a fish and its not tagged, that should be a big fine.
 
Here in Orygun we have to pay a Columbia River endorsement to fish any river system that drains into the Columbia if we want to fish for Steelhead/Salmon, regardless of whether or not we plan on keeping any.

We had that as well but it ended.
SF
 
Now THAT is just plain silly. I haven't kept a fish in 5 years, why do I need a catch card to fish CnR? If I have a fish and its not tagged, that should be a big fine.
Again down here if you want to fish for salmon or steelhead, you have to buy a punch card.

I am always amazed that I can buy a non resident fishing license for a year in the Northwest Territories or Manitoba for less than my annual Oregon fishing license. In fact I can buy a license for both territories for less than Oregon…
 
Again down here if you want to fish for salmon or steelhead, you have to buy a punch card.

I am always amazed that I can buy a non resident fishing license for a year in the Northwest Territories or Manitoba for less than my annual Oregon fishing license. In fact I can buy a license for both territories for less than Oregon…

Here in Washington, the first catch card comes free with your license. You can buy additional cards if you fill up your first card. It’s kind of worthless if you never plan to retain any fish. If you mail it in to WDFW after your annual license expires, they get data off of it if you retain fish. If you mail in an empty card, they get data that maybe you didn’t fish much or you aren’t much of an angler. 😂
SF
 
I never went electronic in Oregon. A bunch of my friends regret doing so and now need to go into an ODFW office to revert to paper.

One glitch is the e-system uses GPS to autofill your location when tagging fish. When fishing a river mouth to the ocean, the autofill gets it wrong every time, the difference between legal vs illegal take. It also sometimes tags more than one fish at a time, but you can’t untag, no good when the limit is one (e.g., halibut) and you gotta contact ODFW to get the extra tagged fish removed (or get a ticket). For me, it is a hassle to have to fiddle with a phone / phone settings when going fishing.
 
Wait....what?
Just repeating what a game warden told us in the ‘90s. We boated a couple of chinook and were digging around for a pen when they came up and told us we had to fill it out before bringing the fish aboard.

Maybe that was never actually the case, as I just read WAC 220-310-020 and it doesn’t seem to say that. Only language I could find about when is on their website and says “After you catch a fish or crab, you are required to enter that catch on your catch record card before continuing to fish.”

I also found the wac speaks as if digital catch records and apps are a thing. “Anglers using the electronic catch record card must record harvest immediately. If no crab are retained, mobile application users must record no harvest by the end of the season through the department-authorized mobile application.”
 
This question was brought up at yesterday’s NOF meeting. WDFW staff said they are currently working with a vendor and that it is coming, but they wouldn’t commit to when or how soon.
SF
They had planned to implement it for this license year, but the vendor underperformed and they terminated the contract and it’s currently under litigation. And with current budget situations it might be delayed even longer since they do not have a vendor in place yet.
 
Personally, I am ok with paper license. Local New England states all have on-line purchase and you can download and/or print. I always save a copy and then print as I never take my phone on the water. First thing is that I don't want any calls/texts/etc. and the next issue is the lack of waterproofing for the phone.
 
My phone is always on me, everywhere. And it is waterproof (but saltwater would probably not be good for it).
 
I also brought up why I can report my hunting harvest online but not my fishing. That one doesn't make sense to me either, but I suspect there is a good reason I'm just not aware of.
THIS! This has bugged me for years. If you want me to return my paper catch record you better give me a stamped envelope or it's not gonna happen. They tried to blacklist those that didn't return it (ie me) a few years back, but I'm guessing someone fought that and won. The judge probably laughed at the state attorney.

They would get SO much more participation if it was online. Or on the app! Imagine if you could catch a hatchery brat, bonk it, put it in the cooler and then enter it on the app. You're legal and they get their data ASAP. The data that they supposedly want so bad they were willing to blackmail us.

There's absolutely no reason this can't be done and done affordably. Kills me.
 
My phone is always on me, everywhere. And it is waterproof (but saltwater would probably not be good for it).
This is true. Ask me how I know.

At the very least, if your phone takes a dunk in saltwater, rinse out the charging port with fresh water before plugging it in.
 
I live in Illinois and fish in Wisconsin, so just purchased new licenses for both states. Both require that you have a paper copy on hand when you fish. I have both of mine laminated and keep them in my wallet, as they are credit-card sized.

But neither state has salmon or steelhead tags, just daily/weekly limits.
 
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I live in Illinois and fish in Wisconsin, so just purchased new licenses for both states. Both require that you have a paper copy on hand when you fish. I have both of mine laminated and keep them in my wallet, as they are credit-card sized.

But neither state has salmon or steelhead tags, just daily/weekly limits.
I would take that over a long receipt printed with disappearing ink, if I can't have it on my phone.
 
I would take that over a long receipt printed with disappearing ink, if I can't have it on my phone.
Yeah, I remember those Oregon licenses, about 18 inches long! I haven't gotten one since I left the PNW in 2012, so I'd forgotten.
 
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