Carp Guide??

farofffisher

farofffisher

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After reading some carp threads I thought Id ask if there are guides that fish carp.
I have always wanted to fish carp and want to try this year.

Thanks for any reply.
 
This thread is likely to be met with some, say, controversial takes. Here's my telling of the tale being as neutral as possible:

Yes, there are carp guides in Oregon (where I see you are). But their operations are not particularly popular with the locals for a long list of reasons to say the least, so you aren't likely to get much for recommendations here.

I'm happy to PM you if you want to potentially meet up this summer and I could show you some starter spots that aren't really secrets.
 
farofffisher said:
I have to admit I have trouble with folks that aren't very good at math....
"half day"...$450 "full day" $700 doesnt add up for me.
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I think maybe their math includes some things you're not adding in. Insurance, guide/business licensing, launch/recovery time, time to shop from launch and back, and other fixed costs I don't know about are all about the same whether it's a 1/2 day or a full day. A full day is just a few more hours on the water and a sandwich. Relatively low cost for the guide to provide.
 
Guy Gregory said:
I think maybe their math includes some things you're not adding in. Insurance, guide/business licensing, launch/recovery time, time to shop from launch and back, and other fixed costs I don't know about are all about the same whether it's a 1/2 day or a full day. A full day is just a few more hours on the water and a sandwich. Relatively low cost for the guide to provide.
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The cost DEFINITELY includes marketing ;).
 
dang, is $700 basically the going rate for a PNW guided trip these days? Are they using a powerboat or something?

I guess I haven't really been paying much attention. Maybe I've been living under a rock cause I always thought that a full day around here was in the $450-$550 range...

Hopefully that comes with a guide with quite a bit of experience....

Here's a podcast by John Montana. That's just about the best local information you'll get...starts around 44min mark. clickity

Oh, and PM Evan.
 
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Yeah, maybe my point of reference, Mike Sturza, Tiger Musky guide extraordinaire who is still $500/day for tigers, is a little off.
 
Carp are absolutely everywhere near me. Maybe i should get my guides license. But I ain't touching one...:) I suppose I should try for them seems super easy to me unless they are picky.
I think a day with Evan and Clarkman would be a much better investment than a guide trip
 
My comment about "full" vs "half day" is simple.
I took my grand kids on a "half day'" trip on the Umpqua for Smallmouth one day
with a guide I had used for a "full day" trip.
I really expected to pay HALF of the "fullday " rate.
NOPE the fee was not half but half plus $100 .
I understand the economics of cost issues just dont say "half day" because the fee
is not "half day"
Guess I just simple minded.
 
clarkman said:
dang, is $700 basically the going rate for a PNW guided trip these days? Are they using a powerboat or something?

I guess I haven't really been paying much attention. Maybe I've been living under a rock cause I always thought that a full day around here was in the $450-$550 range...

Hopefully that comes with a guide with quite a bit of experience....

Here's a podcast by John Montana. That's just about the best local information you'll get...starts around 44min mark. clickity

Oh, and PM Evan.
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A. They are simply the best, hands down. They’re the fly shop that actually fishes, remember?

B. Experience? Nahhhh, who needs that?!
 
Rob Allen said:
Carp are absolutely everywhere near me. Maybe i should get my guides license. But I ain't touching one...:) I suppose I should try for them seems super easy to me unless they are picky.
I think a day with Evan and Clarkman would be a much better investment than a guide trip
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I'd defer to Evan on this one....I just started my carp journey...He's got a few more hours (or thousand) under his belt than me, plus a boat! lol.

Although, some of my best spots, especially this last summer, were 'found' by just hiking the river away from the closer in spots where everyone seems to go these days.
 
Just to be clear I dont dispute "experience" for me its about the math.
If I put some folks in my boat to guide my costs are the same concerning
liability etc. whether "full" or "half day'
What changes in my mind is the hourly rate I pay for the guides time.
Just for kicks imagine as a guide I have a "full day" booking.
I get ONE "full day" fee for lets say $500 bucks.
But if I charge $350 for a "half day" I can run two "half day" trips and earn $700 vs $500.
I think guides at PEAK times,
such as Buoy 10 for instance, love the opportunity for "half day"
bookings.
Cant blame them for trying to make a living.
I just think its disingenuous to call it "half day" when you compare it to "full day"
related to fee.
Other folks may have a different point of view.
 
farofffisher said:
Just to be clear I dont dispute "experience" for me its about the math.
If I put some folks in my boat to guide my costs are the same concerning
liability etc. whether "full" or "half day'
What changes in my mind is the hourly rate I pay for the guides time.
Just for kicks imagine as a guide I have a "full day" booking.
I get ONE "full day" fee for lets say $500 bucks.
But if I charge $350 for a "half day" I can run two "half day" trips and earn $700 vs $500.
I think guides at PEAK times,
such as Buoy 10 for instance, love the opportunity for "half day"
bookings.
Cant blame them for trying to make a living.
I just think its disingenuous to call it "half day" when you compare it to "full day"
related to fee.
Other folks may have a different point of view.
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If I ever paid for a guide, this would annoy me too.
 
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