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I ended up just ordering some 30lb. It specs out similar to the Stren I like.Just respooled four reels with 40lb Berkley ProSpec Chrome in Blaze Orange.
It’s awesome.
You will like it. There are some coils if you haven’t used it for a while, but they disappear quickly. I never tried the Stren, but I like the ProSpec.I ended up just ordering some 30lb. It specs out similar to the Stren I like.
That is good to know about the knots, because I would prefer tying the Perfection over the surgeons loop anyway.The ProSpec is good. Thinner than Catfish, and a different plastic / feel. I recommend testing a few different knots. When I tested it, a perfection loop tested stronger than a surgeons loop. This is not the first copolymer line that’s exhibited this trait. Just make some loops in a short length of line and test them head to head to see which wins (I use a dowel to hold the line). I’m still using a stash of 40 lb Catfish stored in the freezer, but if I wasn’t, I’d be using ProSpec.
The ProSpec is good. Thinner than Catfish, and a different plastic / feel. I recommend testing a few different knots. When I tested it, a perfection loop tested stronger than a surgeons loop. This is not the first copolymer line that’s exhibited this trait. Just make some loops in a short length of line and test them head to head to see which wins (I use a dowel to hold the line). I’m still using a stash of 40 lb Catfish stored in the freezer, but if I wasn’t, I’d be using ProSpec.
I had my eye on this and was wondering if anyone else had used it. I'm wondering, if I were to use 50# braid as a running line, could I just forego the backing and use the 50# braid for the backing and the running line?I say ditch the mono and get some p-line hydrofloat #50, but that's probably not the advice you're wanting to hear.
IMO, mono stretches too much for efficient energy transfer during casting, requiring the caster to use more energy than necessary. With nearly zero stretch, hydrofloat transfers nearly all the casting energy into the flyline. It also makes for wicked bitchin' hooksets at distance, whereas the 30# mono will stretch up to 20% (more if it has been wet longer). Speaking of wet, hydrofloat also retains its knot strength when wet.
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I had my eye on this and was wondering if anyone else had used it. I'm wondering, if I were to use 50# braid as a running line, could I just forego the backing and use the 50# braid for the backing and the running line?
Regular braid (uncoated spectra / dyneema) is a bit floppy for running line and has a tendency to find its way out of most non-full-frame reels when slack, but if you were referring to the hydrofloat 50, then yes. I have one reel set up with 150yds straight from the arbor to the back of whatever head I'm throwing. I just think its a better deal to get 5 reversible running lines out of the 150yds.I had my eye on this and was wondering if anyone else had used it. I'm wondering, if I were to use 50# braid as a running line, could I just forego the backing and use the 50# braid for the backing and the running line?
No! A running line is a shooting line. It shoots through guides pulled by the head because of its characteristics to move through guides. Also, upon recast you loop the runner cast head shoot line. A braid as runner will tangle and not shoot right. Braid is thin and when knots it is difficult to unknown.
Thanks for the insight billybob. I hadn't considered the knots with braid but now that you mention it, that's my experience with baitcasters and braid. The backlashes with braid are a lot harder to get out than with mono.Regular braid (uncoated spectra / dyneema) is a bit floppy for running line and has a tendency to find its way out of most non-full-frame reels when slack, but if you were referring to the hydrofloat 50, then yes. I have one reel set up with 150yds straight from the arbor to the back of whatever head I'm throwing. I just think its a better deal to get 5 reversible running lines out of the 150yds.
Thanks for all of the info folks! much appreciated. I ended up grabbing some ProSpec 30lb as it seems most similar to what I'm used to & was after. I'm still keeping my eye out for the 50lb P-line Hydrafloat because I'm very intrigued!
Re: knots, I've always gone with a 2 turn surgeons (easy to get that knot VERY small if done slowly & with gloves). In spite of the reduction in strength, it's still not going to be anywhere close to the terminal end where I'm typically using 15lb while swinging/stripping outside of a couple of rivers that run extremely clear where I'll occasionally drop down to 12lb. ymmv
I honestly don't know what magically small would be....lol. That said, I actually do prefer something that just ticks the tiptop just for my own tactile senses. Then again, this is with 30lb, so it'll be easier than 40 or 50. I have received the spool of it, just haven't lined it up yet.I’d be interested to hear if you can get a surgeon’s knot to seat very small (smaller than one might expect) with 30 lb Prospec. It happens for me with various nylon monofilaments, where the knot seats and almost fuses itself into a tidy little package, but I’ve not had as good of luck with copolymers in 40-50 lb. It’ll get small, but not magically so.
When you put a loop on the end, yes.G_Smolt, I like the feel of the Commando smooth running line but would like the ability to change heads. Is the Hydrofloat similar to that?
