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I think using your 8wt with a commando head is a really fun casting sounding setup and will be good in case you find some coho in the next weeks that want a fly stripped past them.

Yeah, the thing is if I want to fish for kings with a short 9wt I can, and If I want to fish for steelhead I still can. Short 9wts are fun, because you can throw as light as a 425 grain head and still cast far, and since they are short they are super light. That's why I really recommend them to...

I don't like 7wts and I would not recommend them as a first rod if you want salmon and steelhead. As a beginner on the swing, it's hard to learn how to catch fish on the swing with steelhead, better to start with salmon so you can get used to getting grabs. Also, im not going into the weeds...

good point. I did say 15 pound steelhead not 20, and I do think that its more cruel than it already is to c & r a wild steelhead to do it on a rod where they can really tire them selfs out. T17 for steelhead is overkill 90% of the time, but when you want to do it it's great to be able to. But it...

Well I hope you get to experience it before it's gone.

I think learning spey is easier starting with a single hand spey. you have less to adapt to. Also it's really fun, you can put a haul into your spey cast and such.

Anyone else start getting tennis elbow in their lower hand when they cast big spey rods? I can't fish my 14'4 for multiple days in a row, I start getting horrible flair ups. Smaller rods I have no problem with.

I think you make a great point here honestly. What newbie is going to do that haha. 20s are not the norm, but I run into one or two depending on the year. I also fish rivers that mostly are not in Washington. lot of fast high water I deal with and I throw t17 a lot. I spend a good chunk of time...

yeah, I exaggerated a tad.

Didn't mean smoked, just meant they put some work into the rod.

One more thing to keep in mind, not all rods are equal. I have a Winston air TH 8wt and comparing that to a gloomis NRX + 8wt, the NRX is going to be able to handle more raw weight applied to the blank before it snaps. So depending on what rods you fish, your opinion could be skewed one way or...

I catch big fish. 15 pound steelhead on a 7wt is doing a disfavor for the fish. I fish where I want. I cannot throw 12.5ft t17 on a 7wt, this means I can't fish everything I want to, and my rod is limiting that. 20 pound chrome coho are no match for a 7wt. Go hook one on big water and tell me...

My two cents, if you are learning skagit casting, shorter rods are the way to go. It's much easier to control and allows you to be that much closer to the bank. Look on Facebook Market place. I have never cast any of echos spey rods, but they get a good rap from what I hear. One rod I'll say...

Queets all day. go high and swing.

I think most rivers are open here for trout here more than salmon and steelhead. Most certainly the ones that come to my head at least. You can catch a SRC really on anything though lol. just gotta find them. They love Ultra Squid!

Jaw does not go past the eye so its safe to assume this is a pure bread bow, or steelie

I do believe I have lost larger, unfortunately.

In my opinion... the best time for SRC has always been winter. I swing something with a lot of bunny fur and give the rod a tug every 3 seconds or so through the entire swing. every time they hit right after the tug. All in rivers mind ya, if you know the exact time of winter you know ahaha...

I cannot speak for the kalama river as I have not spent much time on it, and never for trout but I can definitely say that western Washington’s streams have some great trout fishing. Yes I’m talking about all the major cascade systems and I’m sure plenty of you all know this too. I do find that...

Thanks for the info. Yhandi