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The definition of fur product seems quite poor. I think one could at least claim that fly tying patches are "toys or trinkets" or "home accessories". I'm not sure I would agree with that, but what I think doesn't really matter. If I am a supplier do I want to be the test case on that...

Comments have been posted to the wdfw commission meeting website and are available to view there. Thank you to all who commented.

I started using drop shot hooks for mooching last summer and liked them. 3/0 and 4/0. I had seen some claims that drop shot hooks hold fish better than your standard octopus hook, and after trying them out I think it is true.

Are we just all trolling each other now? I'm not sure.

I am glad that they got this done timely. Kudos to those on here who made this possible. I can't help but laugh at the news release's admonishment about targeting bull trout. I think I understand why they say it, but it just seems so silly given I could find a way to fish for bull trout, with...

Agree with all. Given the names associated with the petition and the proposed closure timelines, it is hard for me not to think that this petition is actually about hatchery steelhead. If you can get the period they return closed to all fishing, why raise them in the first place? I believe...

Another petition for information and discussion. This sub has been relatively dead lately. https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/about/regulations/petitions/winter-steelhead-season-olympic-peninsula-112923.pdf

Sorry to hear that happened and glad everyone is ok. I have done that drive a couple times and I don't think I've ever tried to push it anywhere close to the "speed limit" in the winter. Cars can pass me all they want, but I've seen too many spun out trailers and semis that previously passed...

Thank you yes I am aware and have reviewed those in the past. My comment was only to suggest that I think it would be helpful for WDFW to specifically cover those reports at the NOF meetings as it would get those reports broader exposure. I enjoy comparing the "benchmarks" to the "actuals"...

Thank you for the reminder. I am concerned about the removed language in the "general" section. I like the language on reporting and making post-season reports easily available. I would like to see those reports covered at the initial NOF meeting. I think that would be more valuable than the...

In my lifetime and as best I can remember the Reiter winter counts have always been low at this point in the season, even on years when Reiter ends up getting a few hundred winter runs back to the facility. I never cared much for fishing at Reiter and preferred the tribs. When WDFW stopped...

My memory is that the 8.3% rate was used at 2022 NOF as well. That is the rate that I remember being presented to the public in the 2022 meetings. It's possible that the 8.3% rate was not stuck to in 2022. I don't know.

Maybe there is now evidence suggesting that chinook returns are such that the extreme protections adopted this year are no longer needed? Like you say in your post above, my memory of NOF is that the reasoning for the restrictions was the 2019 escapement and "what if" scenarios. Maybe it was...

The wariest SRC I've experienced have been those sipping euphausiid and amphipod in shallow, still water on mirror calm days with a bit of sun on the water. I've done best with delicate casts and small patterns (size 14 or smaller) retrieved with the amphipod hop or just allowed to drift. Top...

Thank you for the posts. My prior question was limited to whether banning bait during what amount to limited in duration and location salmon seasons would have a measurable effect on steelhead abundances. That was the original context of this thread. I agree that if the basic goal is to...

Thank you for the thoughts. While I don't do much in-river salmon fishing these days I have in the past and selective gear rules would have an impact on those fisheries. Would the potential savings in what would amount to non-targeted C&R mortality during limited duration salmon seasons...

WDFW has recommended denial of the petition, with direction for WDFW to begin work on developing a "native resident trout harvest management policy". See: https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2023-10/8-steelhead-petition-summary-sheet.pdf

Looking at WSC's board of directors it appears most of them are originally from out of state. Lots of Montanans and Rocky Mountain types actually lol.

Likewise. That said, what I understand WSC to be requesting is for WDFW to start rulemaking on one or more of the following proposals: #1 Statewide year-round Catch-and-Release (all size wild trout) in rivers and streams for all watersheds with wild steelhead #2 Statewide year-round Selective...