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I used to push back on this idea, and I was wrong. There is, has been, and will continue to be a heavy layer of distain toward the eastern half of Washington and Oregon (from the West side of OR, WA, as well as this new distain that comes from Californians who’ve moved to here, which is...

They aren’t even a sampling of the average citizen, and that’s part of this, they are a mobilized special interest group, that has strong armed their way into a position of power that isn’t even real.

I’ve also thought about a SX4, and there are a few around. For me right now it’s what’s my priority of enjoyment driving wise; do I want a zippy little go cart that gets almost 30 mpg or a slow little mountain crawler that I daily drive that gets better mpg than my Tundra.

Word, I should edit it, bc I would take a pre 92 tracker as well as any pre 96 sidekick. Looking for a standard transmission as well, just to make it more of a unicorn hunt 😂

Jesus that thing went for 17k?! It must have been clean as hell!

Looking for a decent Samurai/Sidekick/tracker to turn into my around town/close range outdoor rig. No V6 conversions, crawlers, or ocean side rust buckets please, although I’d look at any of them lol. Thanks! JS

I hope a largish chunk of space rock smashes into the Earth soon. We’ve become too stupid and sensitive, time to start over. Edited!

That’s fair, and I completely understand the “getting bummed out” with discussions here. It’s often reduced to a binary discussion. I wouldn’t want to be a person in charge of relating scientific facts in this day and age, and I teach for a living lol. I absolutely agree that unifying...

Great, and I applaud your, and Chris’s efforts. Can you point to an area where NFS, WFC, or any of the other .org outfits (including TU/SU) has improved the condition of any anadromous run? Cry pardon, @charles sullivan @Thomas Mitchell @Chris Johnson

It wasn’t meant to be an attack, go back and look at the context. You’re being incredibly sensitive on an Internet forum. I didn’t name call, or slander Chris in any way. I just know in the past he’s been all in with a group that I don’t think represents our (see my) goals for wild fish.

Understood. I also think he rides for the brand pretty hard.

Put the cool aid down and look around.

False, we can’t talk about it because we can’t change it.

No one outside of us cares, Chris. That’s the problem, the public could give a shit. You’ve been to enough dinners, you know who attends.