D and NU closures

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That said, they still have to expend energy they wouldn't otherwise have to expend (obviously not as much as being hooked and played, but still).
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I don't know, that feels like it's really on the margins? Assuming pointless fishing would only be allowed when water temps are safe for fish , then it's hard to imagine getting a fish to rise for a hookless fly would have any measurable impact on the fish or fishery? I think a fly tied on a short plastic tube would reduce the possibility of an 'incidental' hookup to almost zero too. That said, I'm just another guy sitting in an easy chair offering an opinion.
 
That said, I'm just another guy sitting in an easy chair offering an opinion.
Aren't we all....😆. I've gotten quite good at that!
 
Just my opinion, but the hook gap issue is a red herring. If they really want to protect the wild steelhead in the D then close the river. Right now ODFW don't have an unbiased way of determining whether you're fishing for trout or steelhead, so it just comes down to how the warden feels about you (which is BS). And the closure isn't really doing anything significant for the steelhead, since the folks fishing deep with nymphs or 'trout' streamers are going to hook way more steelhead than the guy swinging a hitched wet on a floating line in the tailout. Who do you think hooks (and breaks off) more Steelhead bycatch in the Deschutes than the Euronymphers? Anyone wanting to see how that hook gap thing works in practice, head over to the Met during whitefish season and watch all the locals fishing Intruders with #16 stingers. Yeah, they're legal (if the ever get checked). It's just sad the state of Summer Steelhead these days, as Rob pointed out this closure will only result in the Klick (and later the John Day) becoming a clusterfuk.
 
If you really want to get pissed off about how they are handling it, read Amy's post about the legal bait fishing for 3 miles below Shearers. As if steelhead don't eat big gobs of roe....

 
Here's what I'm getting out of all of this,


fishing is really fun.


People don't like having their fishing taken away.
 
JD closed now too. I guess that makes my decision to burn or keep my time off a bit easier. Ugh... And this means the Klick & GR will be even busier than they already are. I'm going to sit this year out. Looks like a fall of fishing for invasives with some trout sprinkled in.
 
JD closed now too. I guess that makes my decision to burn or keep my time off a bit easier. Ugh... And this means the Klick & GR will be even busier than they already are. I'm going to sit this year out. Looks like a fall of fishing for invasives with some trout sprinkled in.

Brutal year for sure. Hopefully the masses get the point and just avoid all C tribs, but I guess that's not how human nature works. It is for sure not how the shop guides work.

I'm a bit lucky in that I had big sailing plans for this fall(It's the 50th anniversary of the kind of boat we race and more than half of the 150 built are going to Santa Cruz for their nationals) so that will help cover a lot of my season. I'll probably lay low after that and then hit the coast early.
 
I'm going to sit this year out. Looks like a fall of fishing for invasives with some trout sprinkled in.
This is the direction I've gone in the last dozen years or so. Why? because they're plentiful, can be incredibly difficult, can also be incredibly easy...AND, trouts, capr, faux muskies, & smallies are all so incredibly fun (and some incredibly difficult) in their own way. Personally, for steelhead, I really only get out for winter steelhead a handful of times every year these days...every year that becomes less and less....
 
It should be noted that on my last couple of trout trips out there, I actually saw individuals clearly swinging for steelhead. Both on the opposite side of the river. It doesn't matter what 'gear' they were using, they were in relatively well known classic swing water swinging. Now would be the perfect time for OSP to get out there and patrol (contrary to some people's opinion, it's pretty easy to tell when someone is targeting steelhead there and pretty much anywhere....it's not how the officer 'feels' about you... :rolleyes: )

Trout fishing has been great!
 
I just like being in the places steelhead live. Actually catching fish is pretty far down the list for me. Once it cools off enough for the snakes to chill out I'll probably do a D trip with the family. Permits should be available and some great camps open.
Most people do, it's also the same type of places that other native species live. For me personally, I just get turned off by some of the attitudes present for the species. Life is just too short to get too caught up in some of that BS. Also, for me, I like it more when it's warmer so I can catch those snakes! Then again, winter trout fishing is insanely good (there really is more to it than just the salmonfly hatch--something the vast majority of trout anglers out there fail to understand, so it seems).
 
I'm curious, are there any guides on here who normally guide steelhead on these now closed rivers? I've seen over the last several days from a couple of pretty well-known outfitters for the area now posting up "casting demos" on the Deschutes, in what would clearly be an area that steelhead would hold. Don't ya think this could give off the idea that anyone can just go out there are "get after 'em"?

Posted 7 hrs ago tagging the Deschutes River as the location...not going to name the outfitter, but one could probably find it if they were so inclined.

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I mean, come on.
 
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