Another lake falls victim to the WDFW policy of: "Never Leave Well Enough Alone"

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For many years a group of us have been fishing Lost Lake in the Okonogan Highlands, a pretty and productive brook trout lake with an excellent campground. At times we have over nighted but more often fished the morning and early afternoon then retreated to the Chesaw Tavern for a pitcher and discussed the day's fishing. The beauty of the fish, their abundance and the camaraderie always made for a special day, a day we enjoyed both in the spring and again in the fall.

On Wednesday I spent my final day on the lake after almost 2 decades of enjoying wonderful fishing there. I did not catch a single brook trout. Instead the lake has been stocked with hatchery rainbows and apparently put in during the pandemic when few people were fishing. I don't have all the details, Roper probably has better info, but it seems as though they were stocked as plus sized plants then grew to about 16'' while nobody was looking. Once discovered the hoards descended and the race to catch the last 16'' rainbow was on. I had heard tales about how fast the fishing was but that is past tense now as the fish were being harvested as fast as possible. Freestone and I camped there overnight and were there only about 20 hours and 30 fish left the lake in just that time. Multiply that by several months of fishing and you get the picture that it has become a put and take bonanza. Now the number of fish is way down and the brook trout seem to have disappeared completely. Next year people will return and wonder where the hell all of the fish are-"It was so good last year....." Duh

In the 22 years I have lived on the frozen tundra this is the 4th lake I have seen compromised by a stocking blunder. Lost was one of the finest brook trout lakes around. Others have been cutthroat lakes filled with hatchery zombie rainbows that either diminished or destroyed the previous fishery. The most blatant example would be Brown's Lake in Pend Oreille County. Once arguably the best cutthroat lake in the state, it was contaminated with hatchery rainbows a decade or more ago and never recovered. Krusty and I spent a day there recently and I think maybe only caught 1 or 2 cutthroat between us, the rest all modestly sized 'bows. I first started fishing it around 1999 and back then it was not unusual to catch 16-18'' cutts, a 16'' fish now would be a trophy.

The good news is that I'll never have to make that long dusty miserable drive up there again. The bad news is that I'll never get to enjoy the beauty and spirit of those brookies in their fall colors again. Damn!

Lost Lake has been lost.
 
Doesn't matter. This was one of very few where Brookies grew to good size. In my 10+ yr history there, the quality of those fish was consistent...2 seasons ago a group of them had cracked the 20" mark. I had waited and watched for a season or two leading up, and Mooney (Islander) and I took 3 of them between us last fall when we targeted them.

For many of the outings refered to by Ive, we were there together and enjoyed a lot of great memories. I'd hate to see any of that change and, perhaps, we all continue on other waters over there (Freestone you too). Ive, you can yell at me for my dirty grille anytime, long as we're still going!

And to Ive's point, tough to see so many ofherwise outstanding venues disrupted by mismanagement. He cites 4 examples, but I hate to think of how many other lakes across the state are overstocked, underenforced and unfortunately fish that way.

But I'll end on a positive note...
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Don't etch this in a piece of granite but this is what I have heard from local bait guys. And I quote, "we're sick and tired of "them" stocking fish food for the Loons". It's time "they" put some good size bows in here, and forget the brookies". I do know this; these same guys have put a lot of pressure on another lake to have its two fish limit pushed up to 5. This particular lake was kicking out 5 and 6 pound fish like torpedo footballs which is now in the history books.

It is a sad state of affairs! I keep crossing off the so-called quality lakes like Chopaka in favor of gear-bait lakes. Now these lakes are falling to mass pressure that may spell their doom as well.

Any way you spin it, it boils down to overpopulation!
 
I can’t swear to this but a fellow I talked with said it could be the stocker. He reportedly told this guy, “I just dump them where I feel like it”.

My last visit got me two decent colorful brookies, and too may bows.

The Fall Fling is right around the corner, we’ll see how it goes….
 
Terrible news. I fished Lost a great deal in mid 80's when I was trying to find a hole to dig up that way. The loss of Browns remains a heartbreaker. Chapman. Quail. Marshall. Others. Hundreds of volunteer hours spent on enhancement destroyed in minutes. But, cookie cutter game is the order of the day for the legislature that drives DFW: see wild pheasant hunting, for example.

Note to DFW: It's Just Bullshit. Note to the legislature: Shut up.
 
Doesn't matter. This was one of very few where Brookies grew to good size. In my 10+ yr history there, the quality of those fish was consistent...2 seasons ago a group of them had cracked the 20" mark. I had waited and watched for a season or two leading up, and Mooney (Islander) and I took 3 of them between us last fall when we targeted them.

For many of the outings refered to by Ive, we were there together and enjoyed a lot of great memories. I'd hate to see any of that change and, perhaps, we all continue on other waters over there (Freestone you too). Ive, you can yell at me for my dirty grille anytime, long as we're still going!

And to Ive's point, tough to see so many ofherwise outstanding venues disrupted by mismanagement. He cites 4 examples, but I hate to think of how many other lakes across the state are overstocked, underenforced and unfortunately fish that way.

But I'll end on a positive note...
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Those brookies are insane! My god!
 
I'm no expert, but aren't brook trout considered invasive in Washington lakes?
As are all hatchery fish.

Invasive naturally reproducing are a way better option than rubber trout that have to be planted multiple times per year.
 
the rumor Roper mentioned feels less apocryphal when you look at what the published numbers are. based on this, there should not have been ANY 16" bows in there in the last six years at least - let alone what's been described by Ive. in fact, from 1995 - 2005, the brookie/bow ratio was faithfully 2:1. after that, the rainbow plants pretty much went away until 2021 except for the random doses of 50 legals. i trust the state has a small army of auditors, maybe they could have one spend a morning with mr. ijustdumpthemwhereifeellikeit:
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this has me rethinking my reliance on this dataset....

For an agency that always seems to be in a budget crisis, it seems like a huge waste of resources to even send a truck and staff out to plant just 50 fish. I’ve seen some lakes were it has been as little as 10 fish planted.
It just makes absolutely no sense to me.
SF
 
Doesn't matter. This was one of very few where Brookies grew to good size. In my 10+ yr history there, the quality of those fish was consistent...2 seasons ago a group of them had cracked the 20" mark. I had waited and watched for a season or two leading up, and Mooney (Islander) and I took 3 of them between us last fall when we targeted them.

For many of the outings refered to by Ive, we were there together and enjoyed a lot of great memories. I'd hate to see any of that change and, perhaps, we all continue on other waters over there (Freestone you too). Ive, you can yell at me for my dirty grille anytime, long as we're still going!

And to Ive's point, tough to see so many ofherwise outstanding venues disrupted by mismanagement. He cites 4 examples, but I hate to think of how many other lakes across the state are overstocked, underenforced and unfortunately fish that way.

But I'll end on a positive note...
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That was a stellar trip!
 
the rumor Roper mentioned feels less apocryphal when you look at what the published numbers are. based on this, there should not have been ANY 16" bows in there in the last six years at least - let alone what's been described by Ive. in fact, from 1995 - 2005, the brookie/bow ratio was faithfully 2:1. after that, the rainbow plants pretty much went away until 2021 except for the random doses of 50 legals. i trust the state has a small army of auditors, maybe they could have one spend a morning with mr. ijustdumpthemwhereifeellikeit:
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this has me rethinking my reliance on this dataset....
How many EB fry can a legal Rainbow eat? Never could understand the Golden Trout plant in a lake that is not even 4,000 ft and warms up to levels that are not great for brookies!
 
I would like to edit my WDFW/ODFW tinfoil hat theory, and say that they just want to get rid of angling in rivers. Lakes they are fine with, and they will pump them with lots of slimy mushy rounded stocker bows that they consider a better ROI.
 
The Brookies stocked in lakes in the Okanogan area are Triploids, TEBT, unable to spawn so not considered invasive. That said, they could still be spread by bucket biologists but at least the harm would be far less severe.
What I don't understand is stocking Brook Trout that aren't sterile in this day and age of BT genocide by the same department. (Fish Lake in Spokane County is an example) I know that they aren't allowed to put them in any waters that have an inlet or outlet but again all it takes is a couple of bucket biologist zealots to undo things.
 
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