For those who carry on the river

Evan B said:
@Creatch’r and I once had a gun pulled on us while we were trying to fish by someone who thought WE were tweakers. That was a fun adventure.
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Smile and show em your teeth. It's the best defense in the heat of the action. You clearly encountered a hunter needing more field training. It's too bad as they give us all a bad name. The THA (Tweaker Hunters Of America) extends apology for your unfortunate encounter. We do police our own so if you'd like to fill out a brief questionnaire I'll look into it and see if we can't get you some closure and education for the inexperienced hunter. Been there myself on the wrong end of the barrel and it's not fun.
 
Dustin Chromers said:
Smile and show em your teeth. It's the best defense in the heat of the action. You clearly encountered a hunter needing more field training. It's too bad as they give us all a bad name. The THA (Tweaker Hunters Of America) extends apology for your unfortunate encounter. We do police our own so if you'd like to fill out a brief questionnaire I'll look into it and see if we can't get you some closure and education for the inexperienced hunter. Been there myself on the wrong end of the barrel and it's not fun.
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More like a land owner who had quite an impressive weed grow going on. Apparently he had motion cameras set all over, and we were lost trying to find the river. This was in the days before tools like OnX Maps.
 
Evan B said:
More like a land owner who had quite an impressive weed grow going on. Apparently he had motion cameras set all over, and we were lost trying to find the river. This was in the days before tools like OnX Maps.
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Been there, done that, but never seen the growers, just backed out ever so quietly!
 
Paige said:
Been there, done that, but never seen the growers, just backed out ever so quietly!
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We told him we didn't see anything (he caught up to us quite a ways from there). But I'm sure he discovered our boot prints when he went to make sure things were still there.
 
Evan B said:
More like a land owner who had quite an impressive weed grow going on. Apparently he had motion cameras set all over, and we were lost trying to find the river. This was in the days before tools like OnX Maps.
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In all seriousness I've been in that situation twice in the course of my work life. Once was armed myself given the environment I was in as I generally don't carry at all. I decided wisely to not produce a firearm as it would have definitely escalated a tense situation. I talked the anxious paranoid guy down. It's quite a feeling to have a gun pointed at you. I sympathize and would implore anyone that does carry to be judicious and a sober mind of reason. Pulling a trigger in general changes the lives of both people on either end of the barrel forever.
 
dflett68 said:
this is sobering and goes directly to training - noticing what's really there versus projecting what you fear. don't carry a gun if you're so focused on what you fear that you see it everywhere you look.
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Yeah, I have a family member who carries 100% of the time and is extremely paranoid. I've tried to have talks with him about it, but of course he won't listen to me. I fear for him and anyone on the other end of it if the wrong situation happens, because he's one who thinks everyone is out to get him. Kind of a scary thought.
 
Dustin Chromers said:
Sometimes I just like to sip a scotch in my trophy room and look at the beauty I've collected. There's a street family unit stripping a Subaru over there. Here is a tweaker couple engaged in domestic squabble. And this setting here, one of my favourites is two males spray painting some stolen bikes. That one there is a drug addled buck coming at you with a knife. What a hunt that was. They all tell a story and bring me back to the field. It's hard to pick a favourite. Besides my hunting activities help preserve the species from overpopulation and disease while my financial contributions to the local community are appreciated and needed. It's all very sporting, ethical, and for the good of the species.
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Am guessing you likely have a "speciality (freaks)" trophy room or Tornow wing I am guessing? The odd specimens encountered from scAberdeen north through Humptulips and up to Forks? The inbred/crossbreeding watershed hoppers ? Well... hoppers in two ways literally. Bipedal is sort of a stretch with that extra ankle and foot, sort of a drag and skip. Tripedal.


this movie has always freaked me out and I do think of it when I go into the upper reaches of creeks and streams.. Brando's near swan song
 
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dflett68 said:
this is sobering and goes directly to training - noticing what's really there versus projecting what you fear. don't carry a gun if you're so focused on what you fear that you see it everywhere you look.
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To be fair, he was just as scared or maybe more then we were. The gun was literally shaking in his hands and when he finally dropped it down and took the round out of the chamber he had to sit down to calm down. “I’ve lived here for 30 years and never seen someone on my property”

Well most people aren’t as sick for Chromers as us Sir. He did give us a ride to the road which was fair. I’m glad he didn’t panic that day but it sure was sketchy.
 
Creatch’r said:
To be fair, he was just as scared or maybe more then we were. The gun was literally shaking in his hands and when he finally dropped it down and took the round out of the chamber he had to sit down to calm down. “I’ve lived here for 30 years and never seen someone on my property”

Well most people aren’t as sick for Chromers as us Sir. He did give us a ride to the road which was fair. I’m glad he didn’t panic that day but it sure was sketchy.
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Damn I forgot all about jumping in the back of his truck. I just remember the adventure up until that point.
 
Gyrfalcon22 said:
Am guessing you likely have a "speciality (freaks)" trophy room or Tornow wing I am guessing? The odd specimens encountered from scAberdeen north through Humptulips and up to Forks? The inbred/crossbreeding watershed hoppers ? Well... hoppers in two ways literally. Bipedal is sort of a stretch with that extra ankle and foot, sort of a drag and skip.


this movie has always freaked me out. Brando's near swan song
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They are all special. Each hunt has its own memories and charm. Aberdeen is an extremely game rich environment at the moment. There are so many species and sub variants all thriving. The game management policies in place are paying in spades. I've never seen it so good.
 
Gyrfalcon22 said:
Am guessing you likely have a "speciality (freaks)" trophy room or Tornow wing I am guessing? The odd specimens encountered from scAberdeen north through Humptulips and up to Forks? The inbred/crossbreeding watershed hoppers ? Well... hoppers in two ways literally. Bipedal is sort of a stretch with that extra ankle and foot, sort of a drag and skip. Tripedal.


this movie has always freaked me out and I do think of it when I go into the upper reaches of creeks and streams.. Brando's near swan song
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Yeah that movie freaked me ot too as a kid, fuck it still does!
 
Creatch’r said:
Just be human once. Just one time! You have to be trying so hard to come across this soul sucking all of the time because I do not believe it could possibly come natural to anyone. I bet when you log off you are super pleasant and probably a funny guy and full of light conversations, genuinely I can see that and I would share a beer with THAT guy no doubt about it. The round is on me. But the beacon of truth, science, and virtue avatar you’ve constructed for yourself online leaves a lot to be desired my friend. I read your back handed sign offs “have a wonderful afternoon” in a nasally dry voice and I can’t control it. Every end of the sentence comes with an audible mehhhh. The quotations around “tweaker” just encapsulate the petty and condescending tone you project so perfectly.

Someone called me a pussy and I laughed. I can’t imagine what people started to write and deleted. That would be so fun to know! The internet is not that serious. You can joke about anything at anytime it’s so fun and wonderful. Just like my afternoon.

Be you today. Let your light shine through.
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Canuck has a sense of humour. It's just specifically and finely tuned to bacon er I mean ham.
 
JayB said:
Like they accidentally pulled the trigger when holstering or?
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I don't know the details of the NRA instructor, but the other guy said it was that his shirt was not fully tucked and put enough drag on the trigger going into the holster to fire it.
The only striker fired gun I have is a Springfield XD, I religiously push it into the holster with my thumb at the back of the slide so the grip safety is not engaged. I like the extra layer of safety.
 
nwbobber said:
I don't know the details of the NRA instructor, but the other guy said it was that his shirt was not fully tucked and put enough drag on the trigger going into the holster to fire it.
The only striker fired gun I have is a Springfield XD, I religiously push it into the holster with my thumb at the back of the slide so the grip safety is not engaged. I like the extra layer of safety.
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Call me inexperienced or untrained but I don't have a round chambered unless I'm actively defending myself or stalking a trophy bull tweaker. I don't carry often so maybe it's a familiarity comfort thing but I figure I can get a round in the pipe pretty quick and the sound likely is an attitude changer which works all the same for me. I don't have a gun fetish but see their utility and necessity. Being in brush and bullshit with a round in the pipe just don't feel right. For that reason a revolver is my brush gun of choice and I can treat it like garbage and it still works. With a 9mm or similar I go by the Israeli philosophy and am familiar enough with my weapon to pretty instantly get it hot. I'm not judging anyone for a different protocol and would like to hear from anyone who has more knowledge than myself if I'm doing things incorrectly.
 
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Dustin Chromers said:
Call me inexperienced or untrained but I don't have a round chambered unless I'm actively defending myself or stalking a trophy bull tweaker. I don't carry often so maybe it's a familiarity comfort thing but I figure I can get a round in the pipe pretty quick and the sound likely is an attitude changer which works all the same for me. I don't have a gun fetish but see their utility and necessity. Being in brush and bullshit with a round in the pipe just don't feel right. For that reason a revolver is my brush gun of choice and I can treat it like garbage and it still works. With a 9mm or similar I go by the Israeli philosophy and am familiar enough with my weapon to pretty instantly get it hot. I'm not judging anyone for a different protocol and would like to hear from anyone who has more knowledge than myself if I'm doing things incorrectly.
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I think the folks that obsess about the time lost in a gunfight are living in a world that doesn't really exist. If you have a job that puts you in unfamiliar territory out on the peninsula I believe that your safety protocol is probably right on the money. Striker fired pistols are very safe with a round in the chamber if in a proper holster that fully covers the trigger. Extreme care is needed putting them in that holster, because that is when accidents can happen.
I have other pistols that are Double action/single action with a safety that I feel very safe carrying with a round chambered. I can draw them and fire them as fast as with a striker fired, you can do that job as the gun is brought up, it's just a matter of practice.
Revolvers are probably the safest thing to carry, as there is no need to carry it chambered.
 
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nwbobber said:
I think the folks that obsess about the time lost in a gunfight are living in a world that doesn't really exist. If you have a job that puts you in unfamiliar territory out on the peninsula I believe that your safety protocol is probably right on the money. Striker fired pistols are very safe with a round in the chamber if in a proper holster that fully covers the trigger. Extreme care is needed putting them in that holster, because that is when accidents can happen.
I have other pistols that are Double action/single action with a safety that I feel very safe carrying with a round chambered. I can draw them and fire them as fast as with a striker fired, you can do that job as the gun is brought up, it's just a matter of practice.
Revolvers are probably the safest thing to carry, as there is no need to carry it chambered.
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I like revolvers as they are idiot proof. And since I'm not a gun fighter by trade I could use some idiot proofing should I end up in a gun fight. The odds of me ending up in one are likely akin to getting struck by lightening. I'm a realist. A slow drawing standard idiot that would be shocked to hell to find himself in a gun fight. My most serviceable weapon is a calm mind and a quick wit with the word to disarm a paranoid gun pointer.

"A man has to know his limitations."
 
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