Why is Pass Lake still closed

The outlet of Pass is adjacent to the parking lot and flows through a "pipe" under the parking lot and under the road (county?). I do not know the details of that plumbing system problem but potentially it could be more complex than it would initially appears. If anything is more difficult to deal with than public agency it would be multiple agencies.

curt
 
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Welcome such straight forward thinking. Developing a drag in access on the opposite of the lake would be relatively straight; in fact, on that other site in late January discussing that sinkhole some fossil actually suggested such a thing though it doesn't look at anyone has decided to advocate for such an idea.

curt
 
Smalma said:
Freestone-


Welcome such straight forward thinking. Developing a drag in access on the opposite of the lake would be relatively straight; in fact, on that other site in late January discussing that sinkhole some fossil actually suggested such a thing though it doesn't look at anyone has decided to advocate for such an idea.

curt
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Thanks, Curt. What will probably happen, because it’s easier, is they will ban parking on/along Hwy 20. Then, they will suggest people simply drop off their watercraft, park at Bowman Bay and walk the 1/2 back to the lake.
 
Freestone said:
Thanks, Curt. What will probably happen, because it’s easier, is they will ban parking on/along Hwy 20. Then, they will suggest people simply drop off their watercraft, park at Bowman Bay and walk the 1/2 back to the lake.
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I expect the parking ban along hwy 20 will happen at some point. The traffic is horrific having outgrown that stretch a long time ago.
 
Those orange cones sure look tempting for a midnight removal every time I drive by on my way to the beach.
 
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It’s been months since drove by the lake. But, from reading these posts it appears that other than closing the parking area, nothing has been done to address the problem. Including fixing any leaks in the pipe. Is the sinkhole getting slightly larger every day?
 
State owned land down my way that was minutely impacted by flood are still closed. The boat launch in Montesano is closed even though there is no damage to the launch. There's a little gravel in the lot. The lot used to be gravel. It would literally take half a day of machine work to restore it. It's been like this and will be like this for some time. It's now a highly attractive tweaker hangout. Thanks wdfw (they own the site). I'm sure the same urgency used at pass will prevail here.
 
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Maybe we can get @Salmo_g to recruit his speed dial backhoe guy to show up. How hard can it be to find a leaky pipe that is causing a sink hole?
Government worker: "Reckon I'll start digging where this hole and wet dirt are."
Government Supervisor: "Absolutely not! We need to start out there in the middle of the paved road and work towards the lake until we find it."
 
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Maybe we can get @Salmo_g to recruit his speed dial backhoe guy to show up. How hard can it be to find a leaky pipe that is causing a sink hole?
Government worker: "Reckon I'll start digging where this hole and wet dirt are."
Government Supervisor: "Absolutely not! We need to start out there in the middle of the paved road and work towards the lake until we find it."
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They also need at least three guys leaning on shovels, a supervisor and an assistant for each guy leaning on his shovel plus two project engineers to argue about the best way to do the job and at least a project manager and assistant project manager but before that several different companies with an army of estimators need to submit bids and we haven’t even started on the traffic control plan with at least six traffic control flaggers along with their eight supervisors or the safety inspectors and the half dozen safety experts needed to oversee project safety.
 
I am sure that the state will be happy to have the input on all you laptop engineers. :rolleyes: Send your qualifications and a detailed plan to WA State Parks and DOT.
Steve
 
If it's a leaky pipe then they have to figure out spot load damage or aging leaky pipe. Spot damage, insufficient cover for conditions, leaking pipe will eventually soften the whole area and wash away. First they have to start an internal process . Then study. Maybe geotech report. Probably run camera in there. Then determine spot fix or total replacement. Draw engineered plans and prepare specs. Go through the competitive bid process. Schedule and get work done. Nothing moves fast through the bureaucracy. Process is set by law to provide accountability.
 
Tom Butler said:
If it's a leaky pipe then they have to figure out spot load damage or aging leaky pipe. Spot damage, insufficient cover for conditions, leaking pipe will eventually soften the whole area and wash away. First they have to start an internal process . Then study. Maybe geotech report. Probably run camera in there. Then determine spot fix or total replacement. Draw engineered plans and prepare specs. Go through the competitive bid process. Schedule and get work done. Nothing moves fast through the bureaucracy. Process is set by law to provide accountability.
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You left out an environmental impact study/evaluation.
 
kerrys said:
You left out an environmental impact study/evaluation.
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Being near the water you're probably correct. At a minimum a good SEPA checklist for a determination of non-significance, another hurdle.
 
Nobody is mentioning the relocation cost of loss of habitat for the otters that may now be homeless
 
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